Aimee Challenor interview on Disability Arts

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Interesting interview on Disability Arts online with Aimee Challenor about being trans and autistic, and the supposed barriers put up for autistic people.
A number of of reasonably sensible quotes from NHS England, I thought but they're dismissed fairly quickly in the article.
Still, it's good to see that doctors are aware of autism as a correlating factor and taking this into account even if they're being put under pressure not to.
They also mention Aimee's history with the greens but nothing to do with the reason for Aimee's suspension.
I guess they either didn't google Aimee before publishing, or are dismissing it.
disabilityarts.online/blog-youre-not-trans-youre-autistic

Why was my post delete. Aimee has proudly shown off wearing nappies and has described themself as an "adult baby" and "furry" fetishist.
Aimee is clearly an individual with a whole host of worrying paraphilias. They do actually publicly show off these paraphilias too. I did not post any untruths. Ludicrous deletions.

"While it's fine to discuss this interview Aimee Challenor has given, we don't think it's fair to call into question anyone's diagnosis of autism."

The point here is given Aimee's very extensive social media and campaigning history that the particular narrative being pushed in this article is one that you would expect to find some history of in their umpteen thousand previous posts.

TRAs getting enraged because people are able to read and speculate on what they have read, is just another demonstration of the wheels coming off.

They don't understand that for everyone posting there are hundreds reading. Watching how women are being censored and silenced is fanning the flames of gender critical feminism more than anything else has ever done.

I know it's frustrating to be deleted, but it's actually demonstrative of a far more positive phenomenon that it appears.

I think it's worth noting that Aimee & Dad are being investigated at the very highest level, in the form of the Westminster child abuse inquiry.

So this is no just some random downtrodden teen.

Worth noting that the article is open to comments.

I'm a far outside observer. IMO Aimee has had what could be described at the bare minimum as a less than ideal childhood. The behaviour the father exhibited (trying to tread carefully here) is not something that is a random occurrence. That level of abuse takes time to reach, there will be many instances to slowly build up to that.

Frankly, the mother has had some questionable behaviour. Which may explain the involvement of social services. Some of what I've read on the internet is really concerning, if true, there appears to be shades of MBP.

Imagine the nightmare childhood of for want of better phrase is MBP meets paedophile (eggshells but what other name is there for someone charged and convicted of CSA).

As much as Aimee's behaviour is frustrating. I can't help but feel sympathy for what I suspect is a very damaged child deep down. Do not mistake this as defence or justification of her behaviour. We know that many children subjected to abuse fight to move on from it and have fulfilling lives, some go on to try and prevent what happened to them from happening to any other child.

But the hard question, is how do we prevent the child so well groomed, from continuing the cycle? How?

Still all the above said. Why with such easy access to the internet, a google would reveal so much, was Aimee selected as what it essentially a spokesperson for Autism? Surely they could have found a Trans Autistic (Autistic Trans? so hard to guess what phrases are offensive or not) person without such a controversial background.

Aimee and her mother both used David Challenor as their agents.

She stood for Binley & Willenhall Ward in Coventry in the elections on May 3rd this year and she used her husband as her electoral agent.

After she referred to her husband's 10 year old victim as a "lying little slut".

The Green Party needs to take a long hard look at how it selects candidates for parliamentary and local elections.

*[edited at poster's request]

Surely they could have found a Trans Autistic (Autistic Trans? so hard to guess what phrases are offensive or not) person without such a controversial background

What? Like Lily Maynard?

First I find it interesting that Aimee does not mention her role on Stonewall's hugely influential Trans-committee. Their policy form the basis of advice given to just about everyone, including the police, govenment, schools, major employers and so on. Very impressive for a 20 year old.

And regardless of Aimee's background/diagnosis I think there is a useful question about the use of the NHS and the NHS's interest in in someones overall MH and their Neurotypicality. The clue with the NHS is the H. It stands for health. I assume the NHS is involved because gender dysmorphia is seen as a mental issue. If I want teeth whitening or a boob job I pay for them myself as the need for either is not a health issue.

If a health professional sees a teenager who wants to embark on a life time of (expensive) hormones and surgery they need to scratch below the surface. Pink brain and feelz are not enough. Is the gender dysmorphia a sympton or the cause, is there contagion etc.

So as I read it Aimee want the NHS to treat her, but thinks it is wrong that they look into her mental health and diagnostic background. I would not like to be her specialist, given her access to the media and her influence over policy.

My autistic qualities have lessened a bit. I still have bad days. I’m still very peculiar about certain things. I still don’t like sudden changes. But overall, now that I’ve been able to be myself, I find it a lot easier to manage

I found that interesting for a different reason. I used to hang out a lot on various autism and Asperger's websites, and someone there mentioned that moving to a different country had immensely helped their autistic DS -- not because he became more NT, but because suddenly everyone accepted his differences and communication struggles as being perfectly normal in an inexperienced English kid still trying to learn the language.

I wonder if there's something similar going on in some autistic children who transition -- everyone makes allowances for them, they can relax, and the anxiety about social bloomers diminishes, at least temporarily?

I've seen seen a few of Lily's posts. I was unaware she is autistic. If so, yes, would be an excellent advocate.

Sorry. Meant Lily Madigan, not Maynard.

What? Like Lily Maynard?

Do you mean Lily Madigan?

Cross posted. Yes. Lily Madigan.

So as I read it Aimee want the NHS to treat her, but thinks it is wrong that they look into her mental health and diagnostic background.

Same. In the world I inhabit, it is good practice for a doctor to look into a patient's medical history. Making a note of her ASD diagnosis is the doctor doing their job well.

OP really interesting article, thank you-gives clear insight into Aimees mind.....Aimee says 'being autistic does not affect a persons legal rights, right to vote, or right to freedom of expression. So why are trans autistic individuals finding it a barrier to self identification?

Well in the real world It's a safeguard to try and ensure that no one who is autistic makes a huge, life changing decision unnecessarily.

That article is basically saying that you're less likely to experience some of the more debilitating effects of autism if you identify as transgender.

Perhaps I should tell DS that - sure he'll be thrilled

While it's fine to discuss this interview Aimee Challenor has given, we don't think it's fair to call into question anyone's diagnosis of autism.

Well, I’ll bow out of the conversation since it’s the only thing I am qualified to discuss.

I wonder if it would also be unfair to call into question Rachel Dolezal’s ethnicity?

Self ID autism is a thing - it’s huge on Tumblr, and is massively harmful to those of us with an actual diagnosis. Claims like Aimee’s do actual, real world harm to autistic kids - imagine what that idea would do to a well meaning but dim parent with a GNC child they wish wasn’t autistic.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to question if someone with a history of not being entirely forthcoming with the truth is actually qualified to make sweeping statements about how our neuro-developmental disability works, either as a qualified expert or a person who actually has said disability.

WTFisAGleepglorp

Ahh that Lily. I was a tad confused. Yeah no thanks. I suspect she will be trying to maintain a low profile due to recent events.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to question if someone with a history of not being entirely forthcoming with the truth is actually qualified to make sweeping statements about how our neuro-developmental disability works, either as a qualified expert or a person who actually has said disability

Especially when said revelation comes after some big scandal....

Seems awfully convenient most the time

I hope Aimee is able to access appropriate social services support. I can’t get past the opening photograph - I don’t think Aimee is coping.

There seems to have been a significant decline in self care from the letter-to-parliament picture in 2017 until this one, from earlier this year:

"After she referred to her husband's 10 year old victim as a "lying little slut"."

My understanding of this is that the victim confided in a third party who told, and is the one being called a lying little slut here. However I do believe that Tina Challenor testified on David's behalf in his trial.

Why was my post deleted ? They campaigned with their father knowing he had been arrested. These are matters of fact I believe. They also actively seek ways to block ‘terf’ views. These are not opinions as far as I know.