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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans age court case

55 replies

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 07/11/2018 14:16

www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/tinder-user-asks-court-change-13548546.amp

A single pensioner has launched a legal battle to change his age so he can go back to work and meet more women on Tinder.

He argues that if transgender people are legally allowed to change sex, he should be allowed to give himself a new birth date because doctors told him he has the body of a 45-year-old.

The judge said that he had some sympathy with Mr Ratelband, but the court said there would be practical problems in allowing people to change their birth date - as it would mean legally deleting part of their lives.

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ContessaGoesMarchingDOWNTOHELL · 07/11/2018 14:20

Grin I like Mr Ratelband!

Wirelessmouse · 07/11/2018 14:20

How transage-phobic of that judge!

Melamin · 07/11/2018 14:23

You gotta give it a go Grin

Redshoeblueshoe · 07/11/2018 14:24

Oh great. I claim my pension and a bus pass

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 07/11/2018 14:26

Oh christ

Dh was told he had the lungs of a 28year old

Lets not give him any ideas

(I did tell him that the dr meant 28 year EACH)

scotsheather · 07/11/2018 14:26

Moron!

Fallingirl · 07/11/2018 14:28

The judge just deadaged the poor man? What a bigot!

Melamin · 07/11/2018 14:29

It would be good if newspapers like the mail would let people identify their own age. Age is all in the mind, anyway.

Popchyk · 07/11/2018 14:30

"Mr Ratelband's case has now gone to a court in the city of Arnhmen in the eastern Dutch province of Gelderland."

So still awaiting a decision.

But I get where he is coming from. If you can change your sex on your birth certificate to the sex that you are actually not, then why can you not change your date of birth to a preferred date?

What is the reasoning there?

And in the UK if you can identify your way into one protected characteristic (sex) then why can't you identify your way into other protected characteristics? Age, disability, race, sexual orientation etc.

We've already seen Anthony Lennon identifying as black and being awarded funding reserved for black people in the arts.

Some male transgender people are already identifying into a different sexual orientation (claiming to be lesbians when they are heterosexual males).

And rather more worryingly, can 10 year olds identify as 16 year olds in order to have sex with a 42 year old (who also identifies as a 16 year old). If children can "know" that they are the wrong sex, then surely they can "know" that they are the wrong age?

Because that is where all this is heading.

Melamin · 07/11/2018 14:34

Surely, if you are living as a 16 year old, and people accept you as a 16 year old, then you are a 16 year old. It is just a matter of the paperwork!

whatsthecomingoverthehill · 07/11/2018 14:37

I think the Anthony Lennon case is pretty different.

RiverTam · 07/11/2018 14:39

I've apparently got the hearing of an 18 year old, can I have my Young Person's Railcard please?

Popchyk · 07/11/2018 14:49

I like how honest he is about it. He wants to get back to work and meet more women on Tinder. Simple.

Presumably he's unaware that a lot of people on Tinder just lie about their age from the get go which is much easier than getting the law changed.

He does look a bit younger than 69, I reckon.

But not 20 years younger, no. Grin

howonearthdidwegethere · 07/11/2018 14:53

He could pass for 49. Job done. Let him change his birth certificate.

RedToothBrush · 07/11/2018 15:00

I was getting IDed for alcohol at age 30.

Can I claim I'm currently 28 as a result?

Can someone tell my ovaries this as part of this plan?

CuriousaboutSamphire · 07/11/2018 15:03

That judge is good! A statement that can be used again and again... he asked, about the 20 years that would be eradicated,

For whom did your parents care in those years? Who was that little boy back then?

Sexnotgender · 07/11/2018 15:06

Interesting case! I hope it shows up the lunacy of allowing people to change legal documents and create a fictional character.

BettyDuMonde · 07/11/2018 15:06

I’d like to get my dickhead of a dad off my birth certificate... maybe I could switch to a more cosmopolitan place of birth too?

Especially as i’m already self IDing as a transnortherner...

GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal · 07/11/2018 15:12

I want to identify as trans-European please, so I can keep my freedom of movement and right to work post-Brexit.

Wrathofjurgenklop · 07/11/2018 15:15

Popchyk,
TW's claiming to be lesbians when they are heterosexual males

The entitled male is showing his true male self.
Lesbian, indeed. Angry

And then...
can 10 year olds identify as 16 year olds in order to have sex with a 42 year old (who also identifies as a 16 year old). If children can "know" that they are the wrong sex, then surely they can "know" that they are the wrong age?
Yes, as you said, it is worrying.
We all know this has already happened and the adults will use this to claim their innocence over children.

Some men are disgusting.

Callmejudith · 07/11/2018 15:15

Legend

Melamin · 07/11/2018 15:21

For whom did your parents care in those years? Who was that little boy back then?

He is being agephobic. It is perfectly possible to realise you have been 20 years younger all your life and come out when you are 52.

ErrolTheDragon · 07/11/2018 15:49

But there's science which proves he could have been born in 1949 but only be 49. ShockGrin

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation

Personally, I'm age-fluid. I'm 38 plus or minus 20 years or so.

RedToothBrush · 07/11/2018 15:51

If you are non-binary age, does this mean you skip every year of your life that ends in a 1 or a 0?

Fuzzywig · 07/11/2018 15:58

Isn’t there an alleged 30 year old in a school somewhere pretending to be a teenager?