Children in Need funds group who promote sterilising children

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BBC Children in Need gives money to Mermaids. To make sure none of my money reaches them, I'm going to donate directly to charities I want to support instead.

I hate how giving to CIN and others like comic relief is almost expected. It’s just as bad as chugging tbh.

Agree.

I remember charity days being difficult for DS when he was small. They are often chaotic, last minute and badly planned which isn’t great if you an ASD. Sometimes he was just excluded.

Horrific, even CIN can't want to give money to someone who lobbies for kids to have genital surgery without counselling?

They also give to Scottish Trans Alliance and LGBT Youth Scotland. About 100K last year to the latter on memory but I would need to check their accounts. There will be others too.

Do they produce a list of awards?

LassWiDelicateAir -it is the Welsh Baccalaureate . They have to raise money for CIN as part of it, not fundraising would affect their final grade. I wonder if the school chooses the charity , or Welsh Government ?

Also they have to do it in groups, so if one child refused to fundraiser but the others were happy that would be a problem

That's as maybe but none of that justifies why a child should be compelled to support a particular charity.

And why should "working in a group" be part of a school exam?

Liverpool Resisters' blog has a chart of CIn grants to Transgender/LGB and TRAns. It may be too small to view here, so worth clicking the link below

liverpoolresisters.wordpress.com/2018/08/16/the-bbc-and-transgender-children/

It's BIG business. I would expect diligent enquiries into the safeguarding policies of these organisations by CIN.

You are all insane. Mermaids don’t sterilise children. They help parents of children who are unhappy in their bodies, and who are evaluated over a long period of time by professionals with actual medical qualifications. Sorry to burst your balloon.

I'm not donating to CIN this year. Which is going to be interesting as both my work and the DC's school are doing stuff.

I might donate to FPFW or Transgender Trend instead.

You are all insane. Mermaids don’t sterilise children.

Maybe read some of the latest tweets from the CEO. All this 'long time evaluation' and 'needing to be certain' malarky is a barrier to getting the cross sex hormones down kids' necks ASAP.

All this 'long time evaluation' and 'needing to be certain' malarky is a barrier to getting the cross sex hormones down kids' necks ASAP.
Don't forget the surgery - preferably before the child is old enough to fully understand the consequences.
twitter.com/green_susie100/status/1059817455395237888

GIDS is an organisation that supports children with medical advice from professionals.

Mermaids is a charity (not run by people with medical qualifications) that seeks out doctors who are prepared to recommend early medical intervention in breach of current NHS guidelines, e.g. Helen Webberly (GP, not a gender specialist) who broke the care standards act by running an unregistered clinic.

Mermaids also justify their actions with inaccurate claims about suicide rates for trans children.
fairplayforwomen.com/mermaids-tg-lying-unprofessional/

We are learning more about the children who claim to be trans. Specifically, we've learned about the element of social contagion, particularly in girls, and the possible links to autism, trauma and abuse.

Is Children in Need being diligent and careful when it provides grants to organisations that simply affirm and encourage children on a pathway to transition? Is it being responsible when those organisations have no expertise or awareness of options other than affirmation and encouragement?

When half a million pounds is invested in organisations that have untested methods of support, and may be doing more harm than good, then parents get worried and angry. It would be far better for CIN to put money into further research rather than pro-trans groups, in my view.

I think the Mumsnetters with trans chlldren are going to be very lonely when their kids grow up. But I’m forgetting. You probably don’t have trans kids. You’re talking about other families children.

MrsCupCake91

Dont be so daft. One of my DC was determined that they were the opposite sex from the age of 2 to 8. Tantrums, the lot if you suggested otherwise. Played with the opposite sex, went to parties of the opposite sex and wore the clothes.

But things were different then. We and the school essentially ignored it. It was not really an issue expect for a couple of mums. Come puberty everything changed.

That is my lived experience. Susie Green has hers. We may both have taken the right approach for our individual children, but for most children I believe that her approach is unproven and dangerous. True gender dysmorphia appears to be very rare. Something very odd is going on.

needmoresleep summed up perfectly.
SG may have done the right thing by her child (in the opinion of some people) but every single child is an individual and there is a huge amount of to take into account in each case.
Mermaids openly push the idea that every child who doesn't gender conform is trans.

This is horrific to people (like myself) who lived their lives not conforming to gender.

They want fast track the medical route.
Because that's what worked in their individual cases. They are fundamentalists to their cause. They are no more an expert than any of us.

Agree Needmoresleep and theOtherPamAyres

MrsCupCake91 Why do trans activists like to scare and manipulate parents by telling them that they will lose their children , to either estrangement or suicide, if they don’t affirm that they are the opposite sex?
Why are parents taking the approach of Needmoresleep such a threat to you ?

Why do trans activists like to scare and manipulate parents by telling them that they will lose their children , to either estrangement or suicide, if they don’t affirm that they are the opposite sex?

Because they know that affirmation makes it less likely that the child will desist.

I would hypothesize that when more follow-up data of children who socially transition prior to puberty become available, the persistence rate will be extremely high. This is not a value judgment – it is simply an empirical prediction... I would argue that parents who support, implement, or encourage a gender social transition (and clinicians who recommend one) are implementing a psychosocial treatment that will increase the odds of long-term persistence.

Kenneth J. Zucker The myth of persistence

I think the Mumsnetters with trans chlldren are going to be very lonely when their kids grow up. But I’m forgetting. You probably don’t have trans kids. You’re talking about other families children.

It is clear that ‘Mumsnetters’ are not a homogenous group and that some of them do have trans kids, and that parents of trans kids and the trans kids themselves are not a homogenous group.

Having specific concerns about the way a charity operates is not transphobic.

BBC is rotten to the core.
They've got so much making up to do for turning a blind eye to a cartel of paedophiles in the 70s and 80s.
Ironic that their emblem is a bear and the name children in need. Bloody right they are if they've ever been involved with the bbc.
Loony lefty bbc would have all our kids transitioning to give predatory men the back way in. So much for equality. Supposed to be impartial. Utter bollocks.

I think the Mumsnetters with trans chlldren are going to be very lonely when their kids grow up. But I’m forgetting. You probably don’t have trans kids. You’re talking about other families children.

You won't be aware that over the years FWR has provided support for parents dealing with this phenomenon, MrsCup.

One told us that she left Mermaids because they pushed medical transition and parents used to spend meetings swapping info on how to obtain medication the NHS wouldn't prescribe.

After she left Mermaids, other members pursued her, saying that if she didn't help her DC transition the child would kill themselves and it would be her fault.

When she shared this on FWR some Mermaids parents signed up to Mumsnet to attack her. They did not do their cause any good at all.