Medics dont like talking about this topic so I just let them talk. And didnt question them. My understanding is that it allows a wider range of sanctions as there are standards to meet to qualify as well as general medic standards.

I find it all very sad actually. Medical students are potentially such valuable people for society and have an incredibly lengthy and in depth training. There is also very strong competition to get into courses. It is therefore such a waste of skills and training when the individual behaves unacceptably. But of course the public have to be protected against this unacceptable behaviour

Carowiththegoodhair · 07/01/2019 10:25

The good doctor has just engaged me on Twitter. DH is going apeshit at me for responding. He’s saying “we know that he’s not interested in debate, he’s an activist, he’s looking for something he can use to report you to the police, please do not engage”!

The good doctor’s reputation has spread.

Qcng · 07/01/2019 13:24

I'd never heard of Dr AH until that interview on Morning TV with him and Posie Parker talking about the Primesite billboard and fuck me did he come across completely deranged. I'm quite scared of him now. PP on the other hand, in comparison was completely composed.
How anyone can take him seriously, the police? It's beyond me.

DoctorTwo · 07/01/2019 13:53

BirdseyeFrozen

I know the post I'm referencing is a month old but Dr Feelzgood made me think that maybe they could feed Adrain (sic) this:-

Burnernamechange · 07/01/2019 20:41

FWR regular, nc for personal reasons:

A friend who knows how the GMC operates mentioned that every time a new complaint is made against a doctor, the clock resets because it had to be investigated and (if I understood correctly) decisions can't be made until it's all complete.

So more evidence/more reports=more time till the case is resolved, but penalty doesn't change.

SpareRibFem · 07/01/2019 21:21

If that's true re clock resetting that's nuts, for a dr where there's a lot of concern how would they ever get to a sanction point?

Was Shipman found out through a police enquiry? I'm going to have to go look now, I wonder how many Drs found guilty through courts for an offence were under gmc investigation at the time and how often the clock had been reset?

TheSteveMilliband · 07/01/2019 23:00

Shipman was exemplary to all professional measures. Unfortunately he was able to conceal his psychopathy, was liked by patients and would have sailed through gmc revalidation. But that's an aside....
Don't know about the clock resetting but I imagine the number of complaints about AH are unprecedented so this wouldn't be at all practical. Complaints to the gmc really aren't that common.

Ereshkigal · 08/01/2019 00:43

Shipman was discovered because he got greedy and careless. He forged a woman's will and left himself a large sum of money and cut out the family. Obviously that was a bit stupid.

BettyDuMonde · 08/01/2019 09:16

It was an undertaker, Deborah Massey and a local GP who first queried Shipman - he was a lone operator so needed a doctor from his nearby group practice to co sign his cremation forms.

This particular GP, Dr Linda Reynolds pointed out how weird it was that Shipman had so many more dead patients than they did. First to her colleagues, then the coroner, the coroner contacted the police.

The police pooh-pooed Dr Reynolds and it was never reported to the GMC. Shipman was only caught later, as Erishkigal says, due to forging a will (and it was the victims daughter who pursued that line of inquiry).

Later on the GMC investigated the neighbouring GP practice for professional misconduct, for failing to notice/act re: Shipman. They were all cleared.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/local-news/tributes-paid-to-doctor-who-exposed-1176078

www.bmj.com/content/333/7570/s127

www.theguardian.com/society/2004/aug/31/NHS.shipman

www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/jul/21/shipman.health

It strikes me how many women (Dr Reynolds, her colleague Dr Susan Booth, Deborah Massey the funeral director & Angela Woodruff, the daughter of victim Kathleen Grundy) needed to voice concerns about Shipman before the men (other doctors/the coroner/the police) took action.

Seems depressingly relevant here.

Ereshkigal · 08/01/2019 09:22

YY.

samsamsamsamsamsam · 08/01/2019 10:16

Ohh I wondered who that sock account was! I also wondered how golfing Stef knew about some of my tweets.

Thanks for the heads up. I'll block it. He really does have an MO doesn't he?

GodThisIsBatShit · 10/01/2019 09:10

Looks like Lewis Moonie's had enough of Dr Haddock and his pal.

Iused2BanOptimist · 10/01/2019 10:37

Lewis Moonie

Iused2BanOptimist · 10/01/2019 10:39

There is a short thread on kiwi farms re Posie v Haddock with some amusing comments. I clicked on a linked tweet and it has been deleted - I wonder if he is belatedly cleaning out his past tweets? A bit pointless when he is still spewing out new ones.

samsamsamsamsamsam · 10/01/2019 11:41

That post by Lewis Moonie! Amazing.

Mumfun · 10/01/2019 12:04

And there is more! Go Lewis! twitter.com/Moonie_l/status/1083001745708630016

teawamutu · 10/01/2019 12:15

Wow. Go m'Lord, go!

SpareRibFem · 10/01/2019 15:33

Betty many thanks for that summary, agreed it is depressing and relevant how many women said something and were ignored

SunsetBeetch · 11/01/2019 08:26

NHS doctor doesn't think women's comfort, safety and privacy matters.

(Thread here www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3475792-Telegraph-article-NHS-trans-row-as-men-get-access-to-womens-wards-if-they-identify-as-female )

ErrolTheDragon · 11/01/2019 10:22

Yup. Mixed sex wards do cause problems which are significant to the people experiencing them. This was a particularly unfortunate example:

metro.co.uk/2018/01/14/woman-who-feared-men-accused-of-transphobia-after-objecting-to-hospital-room-with-trans-woman-7227597/

SunsetBeetch · 13/01/2019 15:20

Nice.

SunsetBeetch · 13/01/2019 15:22

We know we know about Stephanies past crimes (the golfing jokes). If the shit ever hits the fan re SH, Harrop will get a faceful of it.

SunsetBeetch · 13/01/2019 15:43

*We know he knows

Iused2BanOptimist · 13/01/2019 22:39

Of course he thinks Desmond is Amazing. Just exploring his identity. Blah blah.
Obviously missed the lectures on safeguarding as well as all the ones on biology.

twitter.com/dradrianharrop/status/1084532235984879622?s=21

Needmoresleep · 13/01/2019 22:45

If AH and is husband ever think of adopting, I hope some will have kept screenshots of this.

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