Being a trans ally: a guide for handmaidens

[Haworthia]

One of my female friends shared this on Twitter

Is it me, or does this just smack of men telling women what to do, in a rather “1950s guide to being a housewife” kind of way?

Be kind, courteous, patient and caring with people! Smile! [what does this have to do with trans issues?]
Apologise! [for being female]
Think about how privileged and entitled you are! [when it comes to accessing female spaces]
Think about inclusion! [affirm trans people at work and socially]
Physically protect trans women at risk of violence! [um?]

What do you think of the poster though tidy ?

"trans friendly"
"terf"
hmmmm

My DH is not what you'd call a raving feminist
but he finds the arrogance and misogyny of many of the Trans campaigners deeply irritating

why should they have the right to have their cake and eat it too
while denying that to women and girls?

Tidy are you going to give your opinion on the poster?

Mine is very clear, if you want an apology from me I want one from you first for reffering to me as cis.

Clicked on this thread excited to find a trans-friendly thread on the feminism board, for a change ... but no, just the usual TERF nonsense

You didn't really though did you? It says a guide for handmaidens!

Avegemite, yup.

"I clicked on this thread because there haven't been any self-righteous non-engagement banned termed shouty posts recently, so I thought one was due."

This is ridiculous?!?!

Tidy Do you think the trans people that you know would be supportive of the poster?

Tidy it is important to remember that this poster has come from Canada. This is the country where a transwoman is taking a Muslim beautician to court for refusing to do a wax on intact male genitalia. This is a poster produced knowing the full extent of the law.

Reading the thread, most people here take the poster to be aimed at women. I can't see anything in the poster to indicate that.

I take your point, but equally there is so little in the trans rights debate that centres on tranmen accessing male spaces, or on men accepting trans people in their spaces. Quite simply, that’s never a sticking point. What’s the sticking point? Women and their spaces.

Everything about it’s tone and the language used suggests this is primarily advice intended for women. Are men ever instructed to be kind and smiley and “ask about someone’s day”?

I think the reaction of most men to that sort of "and this is how you ought to behave if you want people to think you're nice" poster would be utter bafflement, since nobody ever addresses them that way.

Tidy you say most people here take the poster to be aimed at women. I can't see anything in the poster to indicate that.
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ODFOD.

Bowlofbabelfish & others - by transcripts, I think they mean school transcripts/records in their new name & gender ID. I guess it could apply as well to past medical records - all records, in fact.

In this kind of advice there's always stuff about apologising, and admitting you got it wrong, and backing down when a trans person disagrees with you. It's mega-appeasement.

Ah I see veg

So strange how events from the last are cherry picked isn’t it? An offence which one committed in one’s birth gender? Literal violence to mention that. But must keep the A level results, they actually happened

Thanks for explaining “transcripts” Vegilante, I had no idea what it was referring to.

I look forward to the poster aimed at TRAs entitled 'How to be a good ally to women". It might include:

*Do NOT tell them they should 'die in a fire' for asking questions or mentioning their fears

Do NOT call them 'T*F scum

• Do NOT tell them to 'suck my lady dick'

• Give more than a moment's thought to how your demands might impact upon these women and girls.

Others might have ideas to add here...

I love the way transphobic people think women who disagree with them are "handmaidens". Such feminism!

Assume the position everyone, time for our daily scolding!!!

You can tell it's half term.

The problem isn't women who disagree (plenty of women who disagree on MN). The problem is women who appear to believe something that makes no logical sense and ultimately harms them. It's either 'handmaidens' or 'alien mind control' and without evidence of aliens it seems to be the first.

Of course if a single person could explain why 'trans women are women', I might be enlightened.

Of course if a single person could explain why 'trans women are women', I might be enlightened.

Indeed. Even the TRAs don't actually believe it, though - hence the recent crop of 'Person X (a transwoman) can be a better Women's Officer than Person Y (a woman) because Person X is a woman and also a transwoman...'

I try to be courteous and patient when talking to people on social media about trans identities and rights and so on.
I get called sneaky, a 'sealion', a 'concern troll' and then the inevitable terf.
I was in a twitter conversation with a transwoman yesterday, I tried to explain why I identify as 'agender', she said that I don't get it, I can't identify as agender or transgender, then blocked me.
She wasn't much of an ally to me, in fact I think she was trying to erase my identity.

It's nice to see that the times has named the hounders/gloaters of Nina Edge, eh? It would be poetic justice if they got a taste of what they are dishing out.