Have your say about Sex Education - consultation closes at 11:45pm on Wednesday 7th November **Title Edited by MNHQ**

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Incase I missed someone already posted about this. Please report if already posted

The RSE (Relationships and Sex Education) Government consultation gives everyone the chance to air their views on what is taught to primary and secondary age children on the subject of sex and relationships

Deadline is Nov 7th

www.transgendertrend.com/rse-government-consultation/

Bump. I'm sure I did this but it looks like one can do it multiple times.

Done. Thanks.

Done.

I really wish Government would request all LEA inform Schools. No hardship for schools to add this to one of their weekly email newsletters after all it concerns parents too

Even I’m guilty of matters like this totally by passing me otherwise.

cor blimey, i've earned my g&t tonight

but the damn thing is done

transgender trend guidance was invaluable

www.transgendertrend.com/rse-government-consultation/

Placemarking! Waiting for dc to fall asleep...

Another source that helpful with filling in the form

www.endviolenceagainstwomen.org.uk/please-respond-to-government-consultation-on-relationships-and-sex-education-in-schools-essential-to-preventing-abuse/

I have a feeling might need to stock up on the as the consultation are just going to keep on coming, course I’m not saying it’s a coincidence these all seem to happen whilst everyone preoccupied with brexit.

the TT guidance is helpful and really comprehensive, but I just focussed on a couple of things

• there's no requirement to teach children about menstruation until secondary. For many girls this will be too late. children should be able to ask questions about the changes puberty will bring before they happen

• there isn't much focus on teaching children to question the sexualised content they're inevitably going to come up against. I'd like schools to be helping me to get my DS's to be asking questions like

why can you rape women in grand theft auto? what sort of person would build that into a game?

why was there a stall at a fresher's fair encouraging young women to enter 'sex work'. What does this tell us about societies attitudes to women?

@Gentlygently Catholic schools have a clear idea of Relationship and Sex Education, the focus being upon healthy relationships

www.catholiceducation.org.uk/schools/relationship-sex-education

Bump - gonna commit to doing this today!!!

I have also been sharing this thread a lot as a reminder why it’s important to fill out consultation.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3398737-We-re-Still-Here-Conference-8th-September-A-report-from-the-inside

I’m going to take a break from MN instead of flouncing, TRAs are exhausting.

So thank you for all the bumps

Done. Really could not have ploughed through that thing without the guidance. Thanks TT !

Mine's done and thanks to TT

I relayed my story about my child's school teaching Stonewall mistruths as fact and the concerns I have, including those on the advisory committee (men who are not parents, one of whom is the offspring of a man in prison for the rape of a child) possibly writing and/or signing off guidance to my child.

The flipping nerve of it.

Thanks Stoptheworld.

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Thanks for the reminder, I will do this at the weekend.

I've just had a quick look through the Transgender Trend guidance, and this bit troubles me

Question 21 is important as it potentially gives individual schools the responsibility to choose teaching materials. We feel there needs to be statutory guidance in this area to prevent harmful and confusing sex education resources being used in any school

as I am concerned that if the government choose the wrong guidance, there is no room to discuss with or challenge the school. (I haven't read the actual question on the consultation, so I may be wildly off course there)

The thing is, with statutory guidance you can at least see it and so you can see if it is "wrong" (eg teaching students that some women have a penis) and lobby to change it.
If you let schools choose their own materials you're basically leaving it up to one teacher who may or may not be teaching things you disagree with and you wouldn't necessarily know.

That makes sense, thank you.

I'm doing this today.

At secondary school, possibly only during the last year, I strongly believe that rape myths and consent need to be discussed. Ideas like if she wore a short skirt she was asking for it, if a woman agrees to sex but then changes her mind she was asking for it, and if she agrees to sex with you it means she has also agreed to sex with your friend (yes that's you, Ched Evans). Victim-blaming women who have been raped and all nuances surrounding consent need to be discussed.

Porn needs to be discussed in a theoretical sense (no visuals). Most 15 year olds have seen porn let's not pretend otherwise, but it ties into consent. Off-screen there is a lot of talking about "so I'll do this and then you'll do that and we both agree this is completely ok" which you don't see. Porn is basically not realistic because it relies on added drama.

Consent needs to be enthusiastic and genuine, not coerced otherwise this is rape.

These are important and difficult conversations that I believe young adults need to be having, I feel quite strongly about this.

Done.

Have completed-thanks for TT advice.

Yes, I put in my response that I wanted secondary schools to address porn, particularly the effects of porn addiction and the ways porn is made, so that adolescent boys can make informed decisions if they do choose to use it.

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The subject of porn has come up a lot elsewhere on web in regards to this.

I certainly don’t want someone like J.F to have any say in this who advocates sex work industry. Each to their own but it certainly not something that will ever be taught to my kids as being some kind of norm career choice.

If any of your children have SENCO then it is worth asking for a meeting to express your concerns if you haven’t already, especially dropping in conversation about recent events around Mermaids and NAS. I had lots of handy links to hand over, good and bad.

Btw it was pointed out none of stonewall posters include anyone in wheelchairs, they all show mixture of families none with disabilities. I can’t confirm this as being true only what School mentioned to me.

Still don’t know why this consultation is open to anyone over age of 13. It’s split in my house of which children can make responsible decisions and who needs a lot more parental guidance