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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Science post on fb explaining transgender

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Randomusername01 · 26/10/2018 07:40

*I just commented this on a transphobic post that was all like, "In a sexual species, females have two X chromosomes and males have an X and a Y, I'm not a bigot it's just science." I'm a science teacher so I responded with this.

First of all, in a sexual species, you can have females be XX and males be X (insects), you can have females be ZW and males be ZZ (birds), you can have females be females because they developed in a warm environment and males be males because they developed in a cool environment (reptiles), you can have females be females because they lost a penis sword fighting contest (some flatworms), you can have males be males because they were born female, but changed sexes because the only male in their group died (parrotfish and clownfish), you can have males look and act like females because they are trying to get close enough to actual females to mate with them (cuttlefish, bluegills, others), or you can be one of thousands of sexes (slime mold, some mushrooms.) Oh, did you mean humans? Oh ok then. You can be male because you were born female, but you have 5-alphareductase deficiency and so you grew a penis at age 12. You can be female because you have an X and a Y chromosome but you are insensitive to androgens, and so you have a female body. You can be female because you have an X and a Y chromosome but your Y is missing the SRY gene, and so you have a female body. You can be male because you have two X chromosomes, but one of your X's HAS an SRY gene, and so you have a male body. You can be male because you have two X chromosomes- but also a Y. You can be female because you have only one X chromosome at all. And you can be male because you have two X chromosomes, but your heart and brain are male. And vice - effing - versa. Don't use science to justify your bigotry. The world is way too weird for that shit.* any science people about to help unravel it?

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IWannaSeeHowItEnds · 26/10/2018 14:56

I am NOT a science teacher but as I understand it, chromosomes exist in the nucleus of every cell, including heart and brain cells. Therefore you cannot have a female heart and brain if you have X and Y chromosomes.

lunamoth581 · 26/10/2018 15:44

This thread by mrkhtake2 might be helpful:

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1036307008318779395.html

”Right, we’re still struggling with the idea that there’s only two sex classes and that intersex people do not prove the ability to change sex, or do not exist on a spectrum. So, let’s look at sex determination and differentiation (thread)…”

FloralBunting · 26/10/2018 16:01

Appropriately enough, Aspie, you're remembering Spaceballs, a Mel Brooks spoof of Star Wars. The hero and villain have a light saber fight which is overtly, erm, phallic.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 26/10/2018 16:18

I'm a science teacher so I responded with this?

If you are in fact any sort of science teacher you should be shamed of yourself.

That article is a pile of wombat droppings. It's been around for years now and repeatedly debunked.

Flatworms? Parrotfish? Yawn...

0/10. Must try harder, OP.

Randomusername01 · 26/10/2018 16:48

calm down @pawnofthepatriarchy. I didnt write it nor do I agree with, I think its a pile of rubbish.

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Prawnofthepatriarchy · 26/10/2018 17:43

Sorry, OP, but I've re-read what you posted originally and it's not at all clear that you think it's rubbish. Not that I doubt what you're saying in your recent post, but your first one said:

I just commented this on a transphobic post that was all like, "In a sexual species, females have two X chromosomes and males have an X and a Y, I'm not a bigot it's just science." I'm a science teacher so I responded with this.

Ereshkigal · 26/10/2018 18:00

It's a quote from the stupid viral post Prawn.

Ereshkigal · 26/10/2018 18:02

It was Blake Edward’s Skin Deep

This was in the late 90s so perhaps that's where they got the idea 😂

Ereshkigal · 26/10/2018 18:02

Oh sorry just seen Floral's post. Could have been!

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 26/10/2018 18:05

Got it, Ereshkigal. I'm just fed up of the bloody thing. We must have been presented with it as a gotcha every few months for several years now.

VisitorsEntrance · 26/10/2018 18:10

As someone said on another thread, just because some people are born without legs it doesn’t mean that human are no longer bipedal.

Materialist · 26/10/2018 18:13

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ohello · 26/10/2018 21:20

you can have males look and act like females because they are trying to get close enough to actual females to mate with them (cuttlefish, bluegills, others)

cough, transcockfish, cough

Misteryise · 26/10/2018 21:43

We live in a secually dimorphic species. The existence of intersex individuals, who are broadly classed as having a congenital chromosomal abnormality (although there are schools of thought that suggest that certain conditions such as PCOS could be classed as intersex), does not discount this, just as individuals born without a leg does not mean that humans aren't bipedal. In all categories there will be statistical outliers. It's just the weird and wonderful world of science (namely biology and stats). Also, as we all know, sex isn't gender.

uthikoloshe · 27/10/2018 03:59

According to Stormy Daniels, sme humans are part mushroom.

EverardDigby · 27/10/2018 07:43

you can have males look and act like females because they are trying to get close enough to actual females to mate with them (cuttlefish, bluegills, others)

Does that not sound a bit rapey?

Frankenterfer · 27/10/2018 08:07

AspieAndProud you're amazing Star

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