Women should just train harder

[FairfaxAikman]

Peak WokeBro stupidity.

Debating the trans issue on FB and a friend of a friend says the biomechanical differences between men and women should be disregarded on the sports field because women are always saying they can do anything a man can so we should just train harder.

The stupid actually burns with this one.

Train harder, speak softer, smile more, cook n clean more, exist less.... anything else?

Dr Fond of Beetles on why train harder is not an option.

The performance gap between male and female athletes is utterly astounding; it’s not a “gap”, it’s the Grand Canyon. ...

Testosterone, the androgen driving male physical development, is a wonderful hormone. It is responsible for advantageous skeletal features that develop during male puberty, such as increased height, increased bone size and density, longer limbs, wider hand spans and a narrower pelvis, all of which make a 100m sprint or a slam dunk far easier. It also directs hugely increased muscle building capacity, allowing higher absolute masses to be achieved in shorter training times, mass which, by the way, contains a higher proportion of fast twitch fibres (responsible for explosive power) than observed in female muscles. To support this superior physicality, males have greater lung capacity, a higher VO2 max (the amount of oxygen consumed during high intensity exercise), a bigger heart with faster stroke rate and higher levels of haemoglobin, and thus can oxygenate their muscles more efficiently.

Analysis of adult/senior female sporting performances demonstrate parity with males around the age of 15 years old for individual events, and perhaps younger in team sports (22). It’s no surprise that adult female athletes are outrun, outjumped, out thrown and outlifted when males get that all-important surge of testosterone that will propel their development into superior athletes. Testosterone-driven puberty has delivered us athletes like Usain Bolt, Sébastien Chabal and Anthony Joshua. As the original anabolic steroid (prior to steroids, performance enhancing drugs were stimulant or analgesic in nature), and used widely in the 1980s in state-led doping programmes, it has almost certainly delivered us a fair few elite females too.

fondofbeetles.wordpress.com/2018/10/01/harder-better-faster-stronger-why-we-must-protect-female-sports/

Apparently they don't have a male body but one that's adapted to allow them to compete with women. 

Apparently they don't have a male body but one that's adapted to allow them to compete with women.

That's a testable fact so until they provide evidence of that assertion, the remainder of their discussion can be discounted/disregarded etc.

And WokeBro 2 believes transwomen "often" have testosterone levels below that of"cis women" 

Balls...

DD aged 14, used to train 14 hours a week. More than enough, indeed as much as is possible to avoid risk of injury. The boys trained the same amount, but were always faster. No one expected otherwise.

In her sport the Chinese trained a lot more. They went to special sports schools. Word was that their injury rate was appalling and that girls emerged with lifelong problems and no education. Even then they were not as fast as the boys.

So in the 70s 80s, all the Eastern Bloc female athletes who were forced to take steroids while training had NO advantage?
Why were they stripped of their Olympic medals?

Men always say they can't get pregnant. They're not trying hard enough. Fools.

WokeBro 2 believes transwomen "often" have testosterone levels below that of"cis women" 

This is an assertion that can be tested and verified - and, until he does, it can not be accepted as part of a discussion. His belief is not sufficient.

Call his bluff - agree that sports should be segregated by height and weight. You'll find all the women and men separated - men are heavier at the same height as they have more muscle and denser bones which weigh more. There will be no eight stone five foot two male runners. Why? All the stuff he just decided was "training".

Reducing testosterone doesn't change their bigger lung capacity, arm spam, thigh bone length, VO2 Max, their narrower pelvis, their centre of gravity, their bigger hands and feet, make them shorter (or change their skeleton in any way).

Nor does lowering their testosterone atrophy down a transwoman's muscles to what the "equivalent" female would have.

His post is ignorant bullshit.

Yet many feminists will disregard these physical realities when it comes the subject of women serving in combat infantry roles. The closest they come to acknowledging this cognitive dissonance is when 'WokeBros' tell them to train harder (in a sport context); "That's a ridiculous suggestion. Why are some men this stupid?".

Then they wonder why so few take them seriously.

What a blithering idiot

It surprises me that fuckwots like that reach adulthood, surely Darwins law would have kicked in by now

Fuckwits obviously

Will training harder make me over a foot taller and give me shoulders like Hannah Mouncey?

Yet many feminists will disregard these physical realities when it comes the subject of women serving in combat infantry roles. The closest they come to acknowledging this cognitive dissonance is when 'WokeBros' tell them to train harder (in a sport context); "That's a ridiculous suggestion. Why are some men this stupid?".

Then they wonder why so few take them seriously.

Not to worry - no one takes this post seriously.

Leaving aside WFs parting shot, there is a point there about women serving as front line infantry.

Women have served (and died) in the armed forces but the physical disparities surely mean it's unreasonable to expect them to serve in every role.

Disabled people are familiar with the 'you just need to try harder' crowd.

Rufus I like fuckwots, just a step to fuckwokes xx

I haven't quite joined in on the trans stuff yet. Looking for an in point and this might be it.

Whenever I see this it really makes me a bit angry.

The differences between men and women physically are so vast. I love that huge quote from Dr. Fond of Beetles.

Why can't there be a separate category for competing? I don't understand it.

That's a classic MRA line. Hur hur women wanted equality so I should be able to thrash them at sport or punch them in the face just like I would a man - no special treatment hur hur. Some men are itching to return to a world where might makes right and they can use their physical strength to keep women in their place without any kind of censure.

Which is why it is so very important that feminism is about the liberation of women, not equality per se (although liberation usually leads to equality). As someone who came through liberal feminism, it took me a long time to see this but the difference is key.

Men always say they can't get pregnant. They're not trying hard enough. Fools.

Quite.

WokeBro 2 believes transwomen "often" have testosterone levels below that of"cis women"

Of course they do (!). Presumably, this is is why the limit is somewhat higher than 'cis' women athlete's average? And why female athletes are not allowedjust up their testosterone during training to build their muscles, as long as it's stopped for the race?

It's just a baby step from what your friend of a friend said to the barely concealed glee we are seeing now from some men at the negative impacts on women of losing single sex spaces, because feminists 'asked for it' and are now apparently getting exactly what they deserve.

@hackmum Love it. And so true