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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

BBC Sunday Morning Live now - 'sour faced feminists'

30 replies

HandsOffMyRights · 14/10/2018 11:43

I don't know who the guest with the ginger hair is, but
When poo-pooing the new feminist fairytale book, she's just said the book is written by

"Sour faced feminists with bad clothes, probably on their periods."

Who is she?

OP posts:
NauticalDisaster · 14/10/2018 11:57

www.angelaepstein.co.uk/bio/

NauticalDisaster · 14/10/2018 11:57

Telegraph, Daily Mail, Jeremy Vine...

UpstartCrow · 14/10/2018 11:58

On their periods? There was a very obvious retort to that, I hope no one was crass enough to ask her.

BumbrainusMaximus · 14/10/2018 12:00

Would it be acceptable to come on a mainstream tv programme and refer to, say, a group campaigning for BAME rights and refer to them as for example, aggressive black people taking a break from street robberies?
Of course it wouldn’t. So if it’s not ok to dismiss black peoples concerns with reference to tired old stereotypes why can it be done to women?

PineappleSunrise · 14/10/2018 12:03

Funny how evergreen misogynistic tropes are.

ItsNotUnusualToBe · 14/10/2018 12:07

I don’t normally do this sort of thing... but a quick google suggests I am better dressed than her and Posie Parker is less sour faced. As for periods... if you can write and publish a book in the time it takes you to have a period... ‘‘tis to be applauded!

ItsNotUnusualToBe · 14/10/2018 12:08

I’m not involved with the book in case that’s how that reads! It’s
More that feminists must be :insert tired woman-hating crap here:

GraceTheDisgrace · 14/10/2018 12:10

I'm pretty sour faced these days, my clothes are not that great, and I'm on my period a good fifth of the time, and absolutely none of that makes any of what I have to say any less relevant than it otherwise would have been. Wth?

(not watching so I don't know the context.)

PutItAwayDear · 14/10/2018 12:12

What book are they discussing? Sounds great already Grin

BumbrainusMaximus · 14/10/2018 12:12

I’m more concerned that the bbc thinks there’s nothing wrong with her to be honest. She’s just got shit for brains. Fair enough, lots of people do. It’s the fact that our national broadcaster thinks there’s nothing wrong with sticking such a thick sexist asshat on the marr show and doesn’t register any awareness that there might be something wrong with her and her statements that bothers me.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 14/10/2018 12:16

Getting a woman on the screen to slag women off is better for them as if a man does it there is more trouble.

What is the book, sounds good Grin

Melamin · 14/10/2018 12:19

BBC are wheeling out some really stunning guests this week what with Sophie telling us that the word woman needs an x in it to include non white, non middle class women earlier this week. Otherwise, silence. Hmm

GoldenBuns · 14/10/2018 12:19

She's on twitter.

Trousered · 14/10/2018 12:21

Interesting watch, she was not supported by the other three on the show, and came over as a bit stupid really.

FlowerpotFairyHouse · 14/10/2018 12:27

She did come over as a bit stupid and that chap next to her (sorry dont know who he is) looked horrified!

FlowerpotFairyHouse · 14/10/2018 12:29

And that comment she made at the end along the lines of what is wrong with wanting to be saved

She was being deliberately antagonistic I think.

Lottapianos · 14/10/2018 12:30

Angela Epstein. She's a misogynist handmaiden, writes for the Daily Mail and can usually be relied to come out with claptrap like that. That's particularly foul from her though

AnyFucker · 14/10/2018 12:30

She also said that young people with mental health issues were (to paraphrase) hsving ideas put into their head.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 14/10/2018 12:32

Did see it

"what is wrong with wanting to be saved "

saved from what?

Im0gen · 14/10/2018 12:34

Is she the new Katie Hopkins ?

Thegirlinthefireplace · 14/10/2018 12:41

They said all this shot about the suffragettes. It's amazing how while legal changes have occurred, we have made no noticeable progress on mindset...

Thegirlinthefireplace · 14/10/2018 12:41

Shit, not shot

BumbrainusMaximus · 14/10/2018 13:12

The bbc needs to try and find more intelligent people to appear on its news programmes. It’s the Andrew marr show not its a fucking knockout. If I want to see fuckwits making fools of themselves I’ll watch big brother.

LassWiADelicateAir · 14/10/2018 13:50

It might be this ?

www.booktrust.org.uk/book/h/hilary-mckays-fairy-tales/

If it is, Adèle Geras and Melanie McDonagh in The Spectator loved it.

awfullybigreviews.blogspot.com/2017/12/hilary-mckays-fairy-tales-reviewed-by.html?m=1

www.spectator.co.uk/2018/01/fairy-tales-for-feisty-girls/

LassWiADelicateAir · 14/10/2018 13:56

And if it isn't, it's a beautiful book. I'm tempted to get it for myself.

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