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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Pool are at it again - what a surprise!

34 replies

Lottapianos · 12/10/2018 13:06

link

Here's your handy guide for how to fill in the GRA consultation '....'to make life a bit easier for transpeople' Hmm and it's written by a 'non-binary' writer. And the first line of the article is about how one in every two transpeople have tried to kill themselves

I'm not even surprised any more, I'm just sick and tired of this shit

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NoSquirrels · 12/10/2018 13:09

Ugh.

Can I also add this lovely article about youthfulness? I hate The Pool. It’s cult if personality over any form of critical thinking.

www.the-pool.com/life/life-honestly/2018/41/juno-dawson-is-no-longer-lying-about-her-age‬

NoSquirrels · 12/10/2018 13:13

This is the displayed pull quote on that article:

If you are non-binary, like me, then none of the above matters anyway, because being non-binary is currently not legally recognised. I can’t get a GRC, or get married, or be protected from discrimination, or any of the other technically tedious things that having the government legally recognise my gender would give me

What the fuck is gender anyway? Why do you care if you are “non binary”? Just do what you like and tick the ‘sex’ option you were born with. No ones stopping you getting married and you don’t NEED a bloody GRC.

Critical thinking.

Lottapianos · 12/10/2018 13:16

Oh Juno Dawson is so awful. Yes dear, 37 is positively ancient. Admitting to it makes you even more brave and stunning Hmm

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GoldenBuns · 12/10/2018 13:16

There's no point trying to comment on their articles. The only comments that go uncensored are the woke ones.

I have unfollowed and my blood pressure is a lot better for it.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 12/10/2018 13:18

I can’t get a GRC, or get married, or be protected from discrimination

What a load of shit...honestly, just bollocks

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 12/10/2018 13:18

Except for the GRC to be fair....

PineappleSunrise · 12/10/2018 13:19

I really, really want to know why the writer things he/she/they/ze (haven't read the article, have no idea what pronouns the writer likes to specify) can't get married. Has the writer actually tried?

stillathing · 12/10/2018 13:35

I think there's a lot of non-binary married /civilly partnered people on this very site!

VickieCherry · 12/10/2018 13:47

I read the youthfulness thing this morning and nearly exploded. She wanted to be a young woman, really? Most women have gone through being young women, and it ain't all that...

I LOVE being nearly 37. I am old enough to have gained some wisdom from my youth, while knowing I've a lot more to learn. I'm old enough to have had peers die, and be grateful I'm still alive. And I'm old enough to give very few fucks about what anyone else thinks, which is a blessed relief from when I was a young woman.

NoSquirrels · 12/10/2018 14:16

I know, Vickie. And the ONLY reason Juno is writing that article is because they were outed by their new boyfriend.

I particularly thought this was spectacularly dim:

I dimly recall a Sex and Evolution module from my psychology undergrad degree. The lecturer was a letch. I remember he told us that men are attracted to young-looking girls because our Selfish Gene evolutionary urge to reproduce is telling them that younger women are fresher, healthier, more ripe-of-egg for baby-making. How sinister. How Handmaid’s Tale. I do not have a “biological clock”, obviously, but I am highly dubious of anyone linking a woman’s reproductive status to her overall value.

The lecturer wasn't being a "letch" for pointing out an evolutionary truth that all women know about anyway. Perhaps he was a letch in other ways, but he wasn't making that up - pointing it out doesn't make him "dubious". It's supposed to make you think about this shit and consider it. Clearly it didn't work! Plus Juno did a psychology degree. Bloody hell.

PlatypusPie · 12/10/2018 14:21

I have just filled in my response - the so called called consultation is not in any way aimed at the general public, is it ? Long and full of trips - I have designed surveys professionally and there is so much wrong with this.

Anyway, DH was wondering what I was typing away at and is now fully informed and is off to do his own. His legal beagle mind was just boggled. Every little helps ?

hackmum · 12/10/2018 14:24

I identify as 25. Anyone got a problem with that?

NoSquirrels · 12/10/2018 14:37

That's it, though, isn't it, hackmum.

You can be whatever gender you like. You can be as old as you identify with too - just shave a couple of years off, just stop ageing.

A transgender woman will NEVER EVER have to worry about the actual discrimination against women of child-bearing age, so there's no downside to being permanently 29. And it's ironic that at 37 JD is squarely in the demographic of the "middle-aged transphobic Mumsnetters" and yet is never ever going to see our point of view because you can't identify back into the corrosive drip-drip-drip of the patriachy all other women got to experience when they were young and have woken up to by mid-late 30s. So it's no problem to "play along" on Tinder.

Ugh.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 12/10/2018 14:39

I can’t get a GRC, or get married, or be protected from discrimination

Idiocy: the gift that keeps giving.

terryleather · 12/10/2018 14:42

Honest to fucking god, where to start with this shite.

Knowing nothing about this person, I'm willing to bet they're a white, middle class, tertiary educated female but no one can understand their suffering and oppression because they're non-binary.

They can't get a GRC cause they're non-binary but if they're non-binary why would they want one - if they're not at one of the two end points of the binary???
Or should there be a special non-binary certificate just for them and because they can't get one its literal violence and discrimination that no one officially recognises their unique specialness?

And yes they can fucking get married.

Tiresome woke narcissist, I can assure you that no one but you gives a flying fuck through a rolling donut about your non-binary identity.

.............fuck I'm feeling salty today......

Lottapianos · 12/10/2018 15:12

Great post Terry Smile

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terryleather · 12/10/2018 15:18

Cheers Lotta
This non-binary guff would drive one to drink!

GoldenBuns · 12/10/2018 15:40

a flying fuck through a rolling donut - well that's a new one. Love it. Grin

Elephantinacravat · 12/10/2018 16:14

I'm so done with The Pool.

RepealtheGRA · 12/10/2018 16:19

I really, really want to know why the writer things he/she/they/ze (haven't read the article, have no idea what pronouns the writer likes to specify) can't get married. Has the writer actually tried?

I strongly suspect the answer is being a tedious arsehole that no one wants to spend five minutes with, let alone a lifetime.

53rdWay · 12/10/2018 16:23

I don’t recall anyone asking me if I identified with a particular gender identity on some deep psychological level when I got married. Did I miss a tickbox? Confused

FloralBunting · 12/10/2018 16:31

I am a married, middle aged woman, therefore I am oppressed because I cannot get a GRC which might actually prove useful if the PTB completely lose their minds and start trying to base reality on the gender fantasy, I can't get married unless I divorce and I am actually having to argue every day to retain rights that stop people discriminating against me.

Damn it, I am so damn special. Venerate me, underlings!

Lottapianos · 12/10/2018 16:38

'This non-binary guff would drive one to drink!'

I agree. I'm having a bit of a non binary day myself though. I'm wearing trousers, flat shoes, no make up and have been swearing a lot (can't think why). I'm also just about to paint my nails a nice glossy pink, and about to start bleeding out of my vagina. So, you know, I'm officially confused Wink

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terryleather · 12/10/2018 18:10

The non-binary guff has now officially driven me to drink.

Despite being female I may have a pint...oh the fucking oppression of my non-binary booze choice....

Racecardriver · 12/10/2018 19:52

The pool has always been a platform for the soft in the head variety of feminists. I think it's one of their criteria on choosing submissions that the article must be waffley, lacking any rational though, lacking objectivity, lacking evidence to support opinions put forward on the article and, altigerher withoutsubstance.