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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Nicola Williams on Talk Radio with Julia HB at 9.30am

41 replies

MrsSnippyPants · 12/10/2018 09:18

twitter.com/fairplaywomen/status/1050656049219293185

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RiverTam · 12/10/2018 09:22

ooh, damn, I wish I'd brought my headphones into work! They're a match made in heaven.

heresyandwitchcraft · 12/10/2018 09:37

I have such respect for Julia for inviting Dr Nic and other gender-critical women on her show. And she usually always mentions the consultation!
On now!

ILuvBirdsEye · 12/10/2018 09:37

Just starting. Not mincing words

MrsSnippyPants · 12/10/2018 09:39

Julia pulling no punches 'man in drag'!

Starts at 9.35am if anyone catches it on listen again.

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heresyandwitchcraft · 12/10/2018 09:39

Julia and Dr Nic - explaining like it is! This is inevitable from self-ID policies.

happydappy2 · 12/10/2018 09:40

it is not transphobic to say women with penis's aren"t women! (From Julia)

ILuvBirdsEye · 12/10/2018 09:40

It is not transphobic to say women don't have penises.

heresyandwitchcraft · 12/10/2018 09:42

When did we stop having common sense on this?
THAT is the real question.

happydappy2 · 12/10/2018 09:43

gendered intelligence advised prison service & also advised GG hence boys share tents with girls

heresyandwitchcraft · 12/10/2018 09:44

Why are we going to wait for people to be victims before we reverse these policies?!
Exactly, Julia. Exactly.

happydappy2 · 12/10/2018 09:44

Julia was great-she totally gets it. Thanks also to Dr Nic.

NaturalBornWoman · 12/10/2018 09:44

Gosh JHB doesn't stop for breath very often does she?

MrsSnippyPants · 12/10/2018 09:45

"We'll just wait for the first girl guide to be raped shall we?"
If that doesn't peak trans every listener I'll eat my hat.

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arranfan · 12/10/2018 09:45

According to the excellent Richard Garside, it's plausible that Karen White might be transferred to a Women's Prison.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3392187-Could-Karen-White-Be-Transferred-Back-to-a-Womens-Prison-Yes

ILuvBirdsEye · 12/10/2018 09:45

Plug for the consultation...

Nicola sending a tweet on the consult, Julia will retweet.

We will wait for GG's to be raped...before changing the law back. WHY?

OrchidInTheSun · 12/10/2018 09:46

Hurrah! That was great. And good push to get people to complete the consultation too. Julia H-B has 120k followers on twitter

heresyandwitchcraft · 12/10/2018 09:47

I also like how JHB usually brings up the fact that these policies will make men uncomfortable also. And she is good with illustrating her points by bringing up her concerns over how her husband/child would feel about a mixed-sex space.

2rebecca · 12/10/2018 09:50

I have started listening to Talk Radio on the way to work rather than R4 thanks to JHB. I disagree with her on a lot of things but she isn't afraid of controversy. The BBCs attitude to women's rights on this issue and reluctance to debate the issue or debate it with women in a minority or not there at all sickens me.

WokerThanWoke · 12/10/2018 09:53

Is TalkRadio online only?

2rebecca · 12/10/2018 09:58

Also digital, not on FM. I mainly listen on digital

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 12/10/2018 10:06

I didn't know talk radio was on DAB, I thought it was only in the London

I will seek it out

I suspect that JHB will have me bellowing at the radio a lot of the time, but I do like her Grin

pastabest · 12/10/2018 10:07

It's also going to be discussed on Jeremy Vine at 10.15

Karen White may single handedly blow open this debate, it gives people something rock solid and widely publicised to illustrate their concerns when talking to organisations, MPs, woke bros etc.

OvaHere · 12/10/2018 10:11

I also like how JHB usually brings up the fact that these policies will make men uncomfortable also. And she is good with illustrating her points by bringing up her concerns over how her husband/child would feel about a mixed-sex space.

There is a weird cultural cognitive dissonance going on at the moment.

On one hand we have the repercussions of the Kavanaugh confirmation and #metoo which centres around believing victims of assault therefore understanding that VAWG is a thing. Yet (largely) the same people are pushing for policies that directly endanger more females.

On the flip side of that much of the pushback is from men now not wanting to work closely with women, be alone with them etc.. because they feel they might be accused of something.

Without going into who is right or wrong in those particular debates these policies also put men in a position via gender neutral spaces and self identity where they are also forced to share intimate spaces with the opposite sex and have no say in it.

I don't know if i've explained that very well but it just seems like in trying to respect everyone's inner feelings we are respecting no ones dignity or autonomy.

TwistedStitch · 12/10/2018 10:13

Julia HB is on fire on this thread.

mobile.twitter.com/JuliaHB1/status/1050397991633387521

WokerThanWoke · 12/10/2018 10:29

God it is so refreshing to see a woman totally hold her ground ^. I mean she is totally right, of course, but still.