"It may be a while before older women stop feeling erased"

[Ereshkigal]

Did we cover this at the time? I can't remember. Article in inane wokemag The Pool by Cologne rape apologist Gaby Hinsliff about the GRA.

www.the-pool.com/news-views/politics/2018/26/Gaby-Hinsliff-on-Penny-Mordaunt-and-trans-rights

Don't read if you have high blood pressure.

Trying to distance yourself from older women smacks of insecurity.

Older women are wonderful. The first person any of us ever loved was an older woman (our mother). Women who consistently choose pleasing men over solidarity with other women are in for a miserable life when they themselves age out of the category where talking shit about older women impresses their male peers.

I hadn't thought about the hormones, Arrenfan, good point.

It should still be on their records, though, so that automated reminders for crucial healthchecks happen without overworked GPs having to 'remember'. That was clearly a nonsense designed to try to make the 'cervix havers' advert sound reasonable. If there's a genuine concern that transpeople will get 'missed', surely that's an argument for retaining accurate records of biological sex.

I'm not stepping out of the way for these pomo addled kids. Just like no one did for me and some of my stupid opinions.

I'm sure disabled people find the process they have to go through to get benefits demeaning too, and it's a lot more demanding a process than is expected of trans people even now.

Some of them are even men, Gaby, and they're not all old! You'd think you could find it in you to care about the young ones with penises, at least.

Oh, I have some great memories of the aunties rolling their eyes at me when I was a gobby yoof. A good thing they did too, or my "keen but a bit clueless" stage might have lasted almost as long as Gaby's has, and that would just be embarrassing.

I know it’s been pointed out elsewhere, but the suggestion “people with cervices” is an attempt to be inclusive for transmen is a red herring.

Those doing the language policing are mainly TW. Women must never be used for its traditional purpose. It must always include TW and any time it doesn’t it must be replaced.

Cologne Rape apologist Gaby Hinsliff

yup

she will truly write whatever will be published

Haha, that article reminds me of some old, respected German feminist I saw in an interview remembering how, when she was young, she and her peers threw the bras away and looked down a bit on the 'old bats' who obviously did not want to be liberated like that.
And now, with her aged body she finds wearing a bra way more comfortable than going without... I believe, she called it the arrogance of Youth.

I can't read this. I'm over half a century old. For the first 20 years of my adulthood it was made clear to me that I should cater to men above me, in the hope that I'd be given a leg up. Once, at a conference, a drunken older and more senior man made a comment about 'a leg over'. I didn't get it until I thought about it later - but he was clearly hinting that if I allowed him to fuck me I might get the odd crumb or two. I've now fought my way to some seniority - and guess what? I've been told to clear the way for younger men who have ambition to move into the niche I have created for myself - I've been moved to less interesting work to allow them to fulfill their ambitions - even though they will be taking over the fine framework I have created (and which I got no reward for). So, as far as I've concerned I've always been 'erased' - the only thing is that I thought I'd claw my way into some position of being recognised and rewarded for my work one day - but this turned out to be a lie.

And now, with her aged body she finds wearing a bra way more comfortable than going without... I believe, she called it the arrogance of Youth

Well I disagree there. I've never liked the horrible things. :)

Cologne Rape apologist Gaby Hinsliff

Oh one of those? Where the rape of a white woman by a man from an oppressed culture becomes a revolutionary act, like the German 'Net-Feminists' said? Frankly, they are really obsessed with pleasing men. Even when looking strictly at the refugee population, they always centered men.

When you pointed out to them that refugee women needed separate toilets and showers those 'feminists' would tell you to your face that you are a racist for insinuating the male refugees might be a threat to those women. (Never mind those women didn't dare to go peeing in the night. They were also racist, I guess).

Well I disagree there. I've never liked the horrible things.
I think it also depends on one's body type. I also prefer other solutions for now, (while my sister basically couldn't live without since being a teenager), but who knows what the future holds...

I am being erased but I am younger than Gaby H, which is confusing. But I guess understanding age to be a description of the number of years you have been alive on this earth is outdated and bigoted.

I think it also depends on one's body type. I also prefer other solutions for now

Yes - I agree - I'm sure I'd have a different view if I didn't have ityy-bitty titties although menopausal fat has made me go up a size :(

I love my bras and you will have to pull them from my cold dead hands (because I am substantial of nork).

See, TRAs? What hivemind?

Those doing the language policing are mainly TW. Women must never be used for its traditional purpose. It must always include TW and any time it doesn’t it must be replaced.

YY. FTM don't have the power or entitlement of MTF transactivists.

It's been going on through out history and in pretty much every culture. From FGM and witch burning through to stupid restrictive fashions women are put in their place.
Men fear outspoken older women because they find it harder to control them.

It may be a while before older women stop feeling erased and annoyed

I have run this through my bollocks to truth translator (or, 'brain' as we older women call them) and the result is:

It may be a whiletake a few years of bullying and brainwashing before all the women who remember when it was OK for women to speak out to protect themselves and other women from violence by man are dead or too crushed to keep fighting about how much the are being older women stop feeling erased and annoyed and younger women who have grown up with this sort of crap know that they have no-where to hide if they try to challenge things*

bugger- strikethrough/bold fail- but I think you see my point! Silly little elderly pink brain is clearly not up to this

Yes! - why don't us older women just shut up and be erased in silence?

What’s her cut off point for being “older”? I ask because I’m really not sure if 39 is too old to be relevant yet. I’m certainly bloody angry though!

I used to love my bras Angry but I since I have become very bosomy, they have gone from being cute and lacy to being more accurately described as Foundation Garments.
#SeriousScaffolding

Gaby Hinsliff is apparently 47, so we need to get with the programme like she has.

I think many of us are younger than Gaby.

It may be a while? Ha it comes up sooner than you think. Here’s a few few signs to clue the young ones in (fuck sake just using the phrase young ones makes me feel old).

Like to party? Ha my eldest teen boy struggles to keep up with the pace I kept. I I would party all night, rock home early morning, chug a Powerade, shower and rock into work clutching a Maccas breakfast. Now one too many drinks I struggle for the next two days. Ha.

Gym only a few years ago I’d rock into a gym class after a personal training session to encounter girls in their 20’s moaning about how hard. Excuse me? I’ve just done a one on one training and now following up session you’re 20 years younger and still whinging?

Suddenly though life itself interferes. You hear 40 is the new 20. You’re silly enough to believe it. For the early years it rings true. Here’s the thing - as you’re getting older so are your parents (their ageing is more serious with endless possibilities of various health issues that need your help) meanwhile you’re still trying to raise your own kids (teens are harder).

Naturally as a woman you tend to put everyone else’s needs before your own. In a blink of an eye the MILF becomes a FRUMP.

Bright side is you have an epiphany and realise society has basically fucked you over. You get your fitness back up, this time for you, and you give zero fucks and just speak your mind.

That’s why society is frightened of older women - wisdom and experience, same as it ever was.