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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Please speak English

63 replies

Sciencelover101 · 06/10/2018 23:24

Dear Feminists

Having attended the cancelled "meeting" in Leeds and read through various feminists threads, I think the time has come to say, please would you speak in English (or even broken English and one distinguished musician once sang about).

Do you not realise yet that the vast majority of the "average" person on the street has no clue what the hell you go one about? If however you were to say "do you think it is a good idea to sterilise young people?" you might actually get a response.

Here are my "labels": Woman; Conservative: Catholic; Biologist.

Oh shit I see in the aisles.

Do you not yet realise that the whole issues of transsexualism with regard to children and young people crosses political and ideological boundaries?

Do you not think that the average family is disgusted and appalled?

Just stop with the "linguistic register" and talk to people on a human level - you might be surprised how many "allies" you have.

Just for the record - Tish does not speak for me as a parent, I was offended that she could even go there, I do not know you and you cannot speak for me. Karen - all I learned from you is how many ways to kill another person - what that has to do with changes in legislation is beyond me.

Get off your ideological high horses and communicate on a human level, using accessible language that people actually understand.

Thank you

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MaybeDoctor · 07/10/2018 08:32

By the way, what is the view of the Church of England on all this?

tediousnamechange · 07/10/2018 08:33

One issue is, OP, that when people speak the truth, they're reported for transphobia.

To the police, here etc.

The double thinkers are forcing us to use double speak.

Micke · 07/10/2018 08:38

What angers me and other people that live in the "real world" is that feminists seem to think they are the only ones fighting this toxic ideology when the reality is that we are fighting in our own ways.

I think feminists are worried that they feel they are the only ones fighting and really want everyone to get involved. I can't see why you're angry about people trying to do apparently the same things as you? Reach out to them if you want them to know you are there, how would 'karen or tish' know about your experiences or that you want to talk to them unless you go up and talk to them?

I think OP I agree with others here - paracetamol and a pint of water.

FermatsTheorem · 07/10/2018 08:41

Ah, I think I know what's going on here

All movements, whether right, wrong, or like most political movements, somewhere in between, sometimes attract the occasional person with a slightly dubious grip on reality. Sometimes those people lose their grip still further and start attacking people on their own side in a very personal way (eg by leaking confidential information or personal details such as addresses).

Sometimes these people are recognisable from what they post on online forums.

TL:DR - see Barracker's post

Roystonv · 07/10/2018 08:45

Hijacking the thread - sorry. I am not a person who stands up to things but today is the day I would like to make my concerns known on Facebook and I do not want to put people off by excluding them as the op felt happened to her. Does anyone know of a simple paragraph I can post to wake my friends up to the horror that is the gra.

AngryAttackKittens · 07/10/2018 08:46

Ah. Thanks for the heads up, Fermat, since I didn't have the pleasure of witnessing the first round.

abbsisspartacus · 07/10/2018 08:47

That's a point what is the churches stand on all this? Are we ment to be forgiving tolerant presenting the other cheek to be smacked too or do they have an opinion?

LangCleg · 07/10/2018 08:49

Oh, thanks Barracker and Fermats. The light dawns.

Micke · 07/10/2018 08:56

Ohhhhhh- OK. I understand.

Ereshkigal · 07/10/2018 08:57

Aha.

RealGhouls · 07/10/2018 09:18

There's someone here who seems a bit like the OP's twin. www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=104646533701138&set=ecnf.100024673745396&type=3&theater

I'm sure they're not related though.

InfidelForever · 08/10/2018 01:23

Seeing the responses to this thread I can understand why this OP might feel alienated. The OP has been accused of "losing their grip on reality" a thinly veiled accusation of being inebriated, ridiculed for having a faith and that is just within one page. Perhaps if you tried to understand the OP's perspective you might not be so vitriolic?

CuriousaboutSamphire · 08/10/2018 08:46

Infidel I think it is more likely that some posters have recognised the OP and know a lot more about them than you and I do.

It happens every now and then. Barracka and Fermat are very active in real life, I think. So they tend to be the posters who spot the real person behind the anonymous posting!

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