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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Topshop take down feminism pop-up

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icannotthinkofauser · 05/10/2018 15:52

A pop-up stand selling products that support UN charity " Girl Up " was taken down 20 minutes after being put there supposedly due to feminism being " too controversial ". Topshop are happy to sell t-shirts with " feminist " written on but this is too much for them?

Topshop take down feminism pop-up
Topshop take down feminism pop-up
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SPOFS · 05/10/2018 16:49

It has the international symbol for women plastered across it several times... that may have prompted some complaints.

FuriousFifties · 05/10/2018 16:54

Scarlet Curtis was interviewed on Women's hour the other morning

RepealtheGRA · 05/10/2018 16:55

Yeah, I may go and book myself in for a nice soothing spa day at a Bannatyne spa and take time out from this batshittery. I’m not really sure that a pink ball gag is really what I’m looking for from feminism? I was more looking for the right to speak for me and my daughters rather than the right to be gagged?

Could someone perhaps publish a compilation of essays from FWR posters instead for me to purchase? Then the proceeds could go towards defending womens rights in the courts?

RedToothBrush · 05/10/2018 17:07

Can anyone enlighten me to the connection / logic / logistics between 'girls wank too' and the image of a pair of handcuffs.

I mean you need to keep one hand free right? And if you are doing that and have a key to release your other hand, it seems a bit... Dumb.

Of course this is all assuming it's a solo act for the girls benefit and no one else's. Cos that's what wanking implies.

Right?

Or is there something to this I'm missing?

Ekphrasis · 05/10/2018 19:34

Scarlet thinks men can be feminists, I now don't but I know many GC feminists do.

LassWiADelicateAir · 05/10/2018 20:07

Check your vernacular
The language we use can enforce gender stereotypes without us realising it. Cut out phrases like ‘man up’ and ‘like a girl’ and challenge gender-biased language

Fuck off

This is crock shite

What is wrong with avoiding "man up" and "....like a girl"?

RedToothBrush · 05/10/2018 20:19

Because this activist didn't use the word women once in the about page for her activism. And used 'girls wank too'. Which is either infantilising women or sexualising girls.

Or does this not fall under the same issue of using gender stereotypes without realising and using language against women?

theOtherPamAyres · 05/10/2018 20:25

Who would have thought that Top Shop admired the Leeds City Council's way of doing business?

GoldenWonderwall · 05/10/2018 20:30

I know it’s not kind to point it out, but she’s just another rich, connected media kid playing at this. Saying that I would have thought top shop would be all over that - I remember Chloe green and her shoe collection ffs.

MrsBertBibby · 05/10/2018 20:43

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/10/05/penguin-feminism-row-topshop-authors-accuse-shop-baulking-controversy/

Better version in the Guardian. Mr Green spotted it and said no.

Sarahjconnor · 05/10/2018 20:48

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MoggyP · 05/10/2018 20:53

TopShop don't appear to have said why. I wonder if they will

But looking at the picture of the pop-up, I do think the description 'huge amount of work on groundbreaking project' is somewhat hyperbolic

RedHoodGirl · 05/10/2018 22:00

The book looks good - I’m going to get it!

icannotthinkofauser · 06/10/2018 09:01

Regardless of who created the book and what her other views are, there were still other products there in the pop-up with the proceeds going to Girl Up and it's really shitty that it was ordered to be taken down.

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AngryAttackKittens · 06/10/2018 09:14

There was a man, with a flat-top mullet hair do, a bushy beard and gold hoop earrings in TopShop Leeds changing room 5 weeks ago. I talked to the woman working on the changing rooms about it and she was almost in tears, couldn't look at me saying "I am so so sorry, I can't do anything about it, sorry, sorry". He had his phone out and I was concerned he was filming so I stood in front of him whilst I was in the changing room.

But no man would ever take advantage of stupid rules that allow any man access to spaces where teenage girls are changing clothes, right? That never happens.

silentcrow · 06/10/2018 09:20

That's why this self-id can never work - are we really expecting changing room staff to challenge men on suspicion of pretending?

Gotta say I'm relieved members of my family no longer work in fashion. It's completely untenable. I wonder if staff would have a case to challenge employers for putting them in a vulnerable position? Some poor teenage Saturday girl is going to get walloped over this nonsense.

AngryAttackKittens · 06/10/2018 09:22

I feel terrible for the shop staff. TRAs have form for making the lives of working class people in service jobs absolute hell for not making them feel validated enough, and now the people (mostly women) in those jobs can't even look to their employers for backup.

Sarahjconnor · 06/10/2018 09:51

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YetAnotherSpartacus · 06/10/2018 10:29

This is Topshop who capitulated to a penis bearer who wanted to change in the women's changing rooms and thus made fitting rooms 'gender neutral' because of his 'feelz' and yet can't promote what looks like a soft and fluffy 'anything goes' book on feminism? Fuck off.

tediousnamechange · 06/10/2018 10:47

I know it’s not kind to point it out, but she’s just another rich, connected media kid playing at this.

Going to ask woman's hour to have Tanith Lloyd on.

placemats · 06/10/2018 10:57

This is Scarlett Curtis.

twitter.com/BBCWomansHour/status/1048181962647724033

What's the biggest lie about feminism you've been told?

Most tweet 'equality'.

Joss Prior also gave their twopence worth. Apparently mumsnetters are weirdos.

cheminotte · 06/10/2018 11:11

Surely feminism-lite is better than nothing? Not everyone can jump straight into Simone de Beauvoir or Germaine Greer.

BigChocFrenzy · 06/10/2018 11:17

I already boycott Topshop completely, because they let men into womens' changing rooms

They clearly prioritise a subset of agressive men over the safety and comfort of their women customers

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