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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Sun 'is changing gender the new anorexia?'

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HandsOffMyRights · 30/09/2018 10:09

www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/7362652/changing-gender-new-anorexia/

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qumquat · 30/09/2018 10:13

I haven’t read the article yet but I’ve often thought this (I was anorexic as a teen). Will read when aim feeling strong enough!

HandsOffMyRights · 30/09/2018 10:18

qumquat Flowers

Naturally Susie Green says girls are not 'confused' about gender (well why would they be if they have a forecful parent whisking them off for surgery)

Yet Stephanie from TransgenderTrend says: "While anorexia or anxiety used to grip girls with body-image or self-esteem problems, these days switching gender could be seen as the latest coping mechanism.”

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NopeNi · 30/09/2018 10:18

Wow. That's a hell of a brave article to publish.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 30/09/2018 10:19

I wouldn't be surprised. That and autistic teenagers questioning their gender.

SwearyG · 30/09/2018 10:19

Fucking hell. Great article, reall resonates as a recovered anorexic. Why in the name of all things fucking holy does it suggest Mermaids and Stonewall for support after saying affirmation, puberty blockers and hormones are dangerous?

Like sending anorexics to fat camp.

qumquat · 30/09/2018 10:20

Great article! But then at he end it say to visit Mermaids or Stonewall for Help and support. Head. Desk.

ShackUp · 30/09/2018 10:20

'For help and support visit Stonewall or Mermaids'.

😤

Omgineedanamechange · 30/09/2018 10:20

Great article, right until they put links to mermaids and stonewall at the bottom, “for help and support”

NopeNi · 30/09/2018 10:22

Yes. Can you imagine going to them with actual questions afterwards - and being promptly told "that article is bullshit, if you feel like a boy then you are one, go you!"

Are there comments on the article? I can't see them on my phone if there are.

Starkstaring · 30/09/2018 10:22

Welll well. A surprisingly rigorous article from The Sun. Just a pity they point readers to either Mermaids or Stonewall at the end. But it is so good to hear coherent sensible stories from the other side of the "being my authentic self" stories.

TigerDrankAllTheWaterInTheTap · 30/09/2018 10:24

Yes, I noticed that, but with luck any concerned parent will note from reading and re-reading that article that the CEO of Mermaids seems very keen on the affirmative approach and before ringing Mermaids they may go online and try to find out more, look at the Transgender Trend website and so on. I know I would. And if they do that in a good many cases they will conclude that Mermaids is not the best source of support for anyone unsure about what to do next. I hope they look up Lily Maynard's blog.

Good article from The Sun. I wonder when we'll see anything comparable from The Guardian. Hmm

CaptainMarvelDanvers · 30/09/2018 10:25

When I was a teen I frequented a lot of pro-ana sites, most notably a
Xanga and Livejournals groups and blogs. A lot of the girls I knew on the sites, myself included, tended to have EDNOS(Eating Disorder Not Otherwise Specified, although I think it’s called something else now) rather than Anorexia, though it’s still disordered eating.

The way that some teenagers, especially girls, thrive on the culture of Tumblr really does remind me of my days on Livejournal and Xanga.

KatVonGulag · 30/09/2018 10:25

Brave and truthful article

TigerDrankAllTheWaterInTheTap · 30/09/2018 10:25

I couldn't see any way to comment. Pity. The comments under articles like this in The Times and the Mail are almost 100% critical of trans ideology.

UtterlyUnimaginativeUsername · 30/09/2018 10:26

Phenomenal article. When I was a teenage girl, there wasn't one of my friends who was comfortable with her body; it's a big adjustment, changing from a girl to a woman. It's normal to find it difficult!

Haworthia · 30/09/2018 10:27

I’ve been thinking this for a long time.

What a very hard hitting article, especially this:

Worryingly, the website Transit.org.uk openly advocates bypassing the NHS to buy blockers and hormones online.

One of the site’s pages reads: “You have a moral responsibility as a parent to ensure the safety and happiness of your child… If you allow them to go through their genetical puberty, you could very well end up with a dead child.”

That is despicable.

CaptainMarvelDanvers · 30/09/2018 10:27

I say I had EDNOS, I never had a diagnosis of anything and it was something I labelled myself.

I was a really mixed up teenager with extreme low self-esteem and the need to be part of something.

MaisyPops · 30/09/2018 10:28

I never thought I'd see the day when I'd start thinking the odd article in the sun and the mail actually have a point.

NopeNi · 30/09/2018 10:29

I also have that moment of sinking dread where I know any "woke" people would say, "but it's The Sun".

The BBC and Guardian are seen as the gatekeepers of unbiased truth and until a few years ago I never properly understood how terrifying that it.

NopeNi · 30/09/2018 10:30

Ahem, cross post, without meaning any disparagement at you maisy!

ShotsFired · 30/09/2018 10:31

The mermaids/stonewall bit at the end makes a mockery of the point of the article!

I am just about to email them a complaint and suggest they include better resources: [email protected]

Gammeldragz · 30/09/2018 10:37

I've often thought this, my sister has said that if this trend were around when she was a teenager she would definitely have been on board. She is glad it wasn't, as she's happy with herself now, but she can see it would have been very easy to attribute her issues to gender dysphoria instead.

GColdtimer · 30/09/2018 10:39

Perhaps tweet the journalist too?

mobile.twitter.com/journohope?lang=en

user1499173618 · 30/09/2018 10:44

As a recovered anorexic, the sentiments in this article corroborate the issues I needed to come to terms with in order to overcome anorexia.

Society asks girls/women to be all sorts of irreconcilable things. The stress this engenders manifests in myriad ways.