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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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Bejazzled · 26/09/2018 00:05

They are discussing a 'feminist poster' which has an accurate definition of a woman on it (adult, female , human) being forced to be taken down. It's a story from The Times of course.
Reviewers are Brendan O'Neill and Jenny Kleeman (sp)

Hugely critical of trans activists and their misogyny and how they are trying to erase women.
Amazingly positive.

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Redkeyboard · 26/09/2018 00:07

Yey!

Noqont · 26/09/2018 00:09

Excellent

Bejazzled · 26/09/2018 00:16

I know! Don't know who Brendan ONeill is but I doff my hat to him 🎩

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scepticalwoman · 26/09/2018 00:18

Share token for the Times article - right at the top of the page online!

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/feminist-s-poster-removed-after-complaint-from-transgender-activist-jlcj8s6n0?shareToken=1f8d831623e47febd4d1e0a8ce079339

OvaHere · 26/09/2018 00:22

He is the editor of spiked online and has written a lot of decent articles about TRAs.

You may not agree with his general stance on feminism though. The readers of spiked are not fond of feminists or TRAs.

ToeToToe · 26/09/2018 00:24

I saw it! I don't know who that guy was but he was fantastic. Who was he?

He hit the nail on the head. Totally got it.

Glad to see both commentators both saw how ridiculous the transactivism was in complaining about the "Woman" poster.

I can go sleep with "sanity prevails" in my head now.

IAmLurkacus · 26/09/2018 00:25

Thank you. Well done Lucy Bannerman and well done Posie! Smile

ToeToToe · 26/09/2018 00:25

Wait a minute - that was Brendan O'Neil?

ToeToToe · 26/09/2018 00:27

Blimey. Brendan O'Neil pointing out misogyny. Things are baaaad.

Procrastinator1 · 26/09/2018 00:36

Very well played Posie.

ahagwearsapointybonnet · 26/09/2018 00:42

Wow! Is there somewhere we can watch it? Reading the article now!

Bejazzled · 26/09/2018 00:43

The poster featured only six words: “Woman, women, noun, adult human female.” Yet they were still deemed too dangerous by one transgender activist who has branded the poster, which carries the dictionary definition of woman, as hate speech in an “absurd” and “Orwellian” row.

The giant poster in Liverpool quoted the definition of woman, according to the Google dictionary.
It survived for about a week before it was removed under pressure from Adrian Harrop, a Twitter activist and NHS doctor, who complained that it made transgender people feel unsafe.

The poster was taken down by the billboard company, which offered an apology after a complaint from Adrian Harrop, a Twitter activist
The poster was taken down by the billboard company, which offered an apology after a complaint from Adrian Harrop, a Twitter activist
He successfully demanded its removal after lobbying the chief executive and senior directors of the billboard company, Primesight, on social media, accusing them of being complicit “in the spread of transphobic hate speech”.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/feminist-s-poster-removed-after-complaint-from-transgender-activist-jlcj8s6n0

That Harrop fellow sure hates women in my opinion

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JellySlice · 26/09/2018 00:44

They walk through life in a state of heightened vulnerability, feeling that people are watching them, looking at their appearance, conduct and every single aspect of their life

(From the Times article linked)

Can't think why that's a problem. It's exactly women's experience - doesn't being treated as a woman validate TWs?

silentcrow · 26/09/2018 00:47

m.youtube.com/watch?v=yR6ZP0y8mJw&feature=youtu.be#

Sky News Press Preview on YouTube. h/t to Magdelen Burns for posting it on Twitter Grin

JillyArmeeen · 26/09/2018 00:53

I changed my cover photo to a picture of the definition today and will be sharing that times article tomorrow, thank you Posie, and Dr baby, May more people be peaked.

ToeToToe · 26/09/2018 00:55

I've transcribed what Brendan says about Posie's poster - because it's important. So important.

"They're defending what a woman is, in a era when pretty much anyone now, through the transgender idea, can become a woman, or claim to be a woman, or identify as a woman. So this is a rebellious poster saying 'look, a woman is a very specific thing, and not everyone is a woman, some people are men and some people are women.' There was a complaint, as there is always a complaint these days and now it looks like the poster's going to be removed."

"What I think - it points to is two things. Firstly, that there is a very strong censorious streak in the politics of transgenderism, where they tolerate no criticism whatsoever. Also, I think there is a streak of misogyny in this movement, where I do think that this idea that womanhood is such a flimsy, shallow thing that anyone can adopt it and embrace it and put it on as if it was a piece of clothing, I think is a very sexist idea."

"Also, what it looks like is "woman" - the idea of a woman, the word woman, in this case - is being erased from public life by people who are either trans-activists or sympathisers to trans-activists who think it's unacceptable to say the word woman."

"It looks to me like women, these feminists, are right. Women are being erased under the pressure of what, increasingly, looks like a fairly tyrannical form of trans-politics."

Spot on, Brendan.

TheKrakening3 · 26/09/2018 01:18

Here is a recent podcast with Brendan O’Neill and the gender critical Lionel Shriver talking about transgenderism.

thebrendanoneillshow.podbean.com/e/lionel-shriver-liberty-and-identity/

miri1985 · 26/09/2018 02:18

Harrop really can't keep his story straight. In the Times article "Mr Harrop ......denied trying to silence anyone, saying he is not an activist" yet he describes himself as activist in his twitter bio.

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FlorisApple · 26/09/2018 02:40

The fucking irony of a doctor getting this poster removed! Has he made a complaint about the medical textbooks he was trained with too?

GulagMilkMonitor · 26/09/2018 03:00

I am chortling at Adrian’s face beaming out from that article because he will think it is a terrific career move.

Iused2BanOptimist · 26/09/2018 04:46

Yes Gulag he probably thinks they referred to him as Mr because they think he's a consultant! I can see him puffing out his chest now. Grin
Well done Posie. So much brilliant publicity all for £700 which I hope will be refunded.

Movablefeast · 26/09/2018 04:51

As much as I agree with everything Brendan has said, it is SOOOO frustrating that a man gets to talk without interruption and is given the time to expand his reasoning when so many just as eloquent and intelligent women are shut down, shut up, screamed at and demonized!

Littlemouseroar · 26/09/2018 05:09

It just gets worse. Isnt this supposed to be the year of the woman or something? How dare we exist.

R0wantrees · 26/09/2018 05:28

“This is a reminder to them that this transphobic hate group is observing them and scrutinising their presence in public life. It creates an atmosphere that makes transgender citizens of Liverpool feel unsafe and unwelcome in their own city*

I think those who choose to look at Dr Harrop's timeline will quickly identify who is watching, scrutinising and intending to cause people to feel unsafe.

CrackpotsArePots · 26/09/2018 05:45

Did you see the look the two reviewers gave each other before they started? Grin Sort of "here we go"

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