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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans-prisoner in Sweden

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SusanBunch · 25/09/2018 17:18

I have just read about this very distressing case in the Swedish news. Kristoffer Johansson killed and dismembered his ex-girlfriend, Vatchareeya Bangsua, aged 20. He then pretended that he was concerned and joined in the search for her. He was convicted for murder and sentenced to 14 years, later reduced to 10 years and manslaughter. It was revealed at sentencing stage that he had also killed and dismembered his dog. He is in a category 1 security jail in Sweden, the highest security possible. He has been described as 'very violent'.

Kristoffer now identifies as a woman called 'Kim Marie' and has apparently 'known he was a woman' since age 5. He has applied for and been granted permission to be transferred to one of two female prisons. He will be transferred shortly. There are no category 1 prisons for women in Sweden, only category 2. So Johansson will not only switch to a female jail, but also be downgraded to a lower security one.

In the whole of Sweden, there are only around 250 women in jail. Only 5 of these are serving life sentences. The women's prisons are a community where they engage in gardening and have a common-room. They resemble youth hostels more than jails. Women are even allowed to have their own metal cutlery in their rooms. They sew their own clothes to wear rather than wear prison uniform. Often, there are young children living in the prison with their mothers, although usually only for up to a year. The guards explain that the majority of female prisoners have been victims of some sort- of male violence, child abuse, sexual assault etc. Prison is no walk in the park, but it's a place where they can be rehabilitated. Criminologists have spoken about the fact that male and female prisons are worlds apart. For instance, male prisoners would never be allowed to keep cutlery in their rooms due to the risk of violence.

The thought of Johansson entering this female space is quite frankly sickening. He has violently murdered and dismembered those weaker than him, shows little remorse, is a huge risk, and is physically intimidating. Yet his request has been approved. The report from the prison authorities talked endlessly about his feelings and his desires, yet did not mention a single word about the feelings and safety of female prisoners. A Swedish journalist called Kajsa Ekman has written about the case, but has predictably been labelled as transphobic.

This is so frightening and heartbreaking for the female prisoners. I bet they are terrified. It's not been reported in the English press I think, but I came across it on Twitter.

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SlightAggrandising · 25/09/2018 17:20

Wow. Speechless.

heresyandwitchcraft · 25/09/2018 17:25

This is actually really dangerous. How the fuck do we stop this?

LadyBrianAdultHumanFemale · 25/09/2018 17:27

But that would never happen.

Fuck. Those poor women. And also the prison staff who will not be equipped to deal with this at all.

happydappy2 · 25/09/2018 17:28

I think the Swedish people need to fight this. I also saw it on twitter, surely there are Swedish feminist groups who could spread the word about this and get it stopped. Will he be kept in solitary?
It is insane that this is happening.

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 25/09/2018 17:29

Horrific. One for any journalists here?

GreenGloves · 25/09/2018 17:32

This is extremely disturbing.

FermatsTheorem · 25/09/2018 17:38

The world is going fucking mad in front of our eyes. The lunatics have taken over the asylum.

OvaHere · 25/09/2018 17:39

Profoundly disturbing. People have gone fucking insane to allow these policies.

Elephantinacravat · 25/09/2018 17:57

Madness. Fucking madness.

Iused2BanOptimist · 25/09/2018 18:01

OMG. This is just so terrible. I feel so sorry for the women who will be imprisoned with him. Doesn't anyone have an ounce of common sense or care?

SusanBunch · 25/09/2018 18:03

happy I am not sure he will be kept in solitary confinement. It didn't say anything in the reports about the case that he would. I am guessing not. I also cannot believe this is happening and that the people that I thought were feminists (colleagues, people I admire) are wholeheartedly going along with this and calling it progressive and inclusive.

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OvaHere · 25/09/2018 18:03

I'm at a loss for what we can do about this from outside Sweden but if anyone has any ideas of how to support any protest please post them here.

OvaHere · 25/09/2018 18:04

Eventually a woman is going to end up dead as direct result of these policies.

Question is will they care?

Pooleschoolschoice · 25/09/2018 18:07

This is terrifying. Once you call these people "girls" or "women" though theres no way to say , "but this is a womens prison/girls organisations/centre" without them just agreeing its for "all" women. :(

Johndoe10 · 25/09/2018 18:08

Fuck me that’s bad. Speechless

ChilliJamandAvocado · 25/09/2018 18:15

www.expressen.se/nyheter/brottscentralen/kim-johansson-styckade-sitt-ex-korrigerar-sitt-kon-i-fangelset/

If you read in Chrome, it'll translate the text.

Can't believe this is going to be the women prisoners' new prison mate...

For long periods of last year, Kim Johansson was separated by his own will from the other prisoners at Norrtäljeanstalten. A decision states:

"Johansson is afraid of his own health when he is considered to be devious and odd, as well as being called golbög. The other people inmates think he talks too much with the staff and appears to be different. Conversations have been brought with Johansson and his fear feels genuine."

Meanwhile, in prison, Kim Johansson has been guilty of repeated misconduct. It has resulted in 34 formal warnings, mainly for work refusal, but also because of, for example, unauthorized tablet possession.

At the start of her prison sentence, the Criminal Care Center compiled a risk profile that assessed the risk that Kim Johansson would be threatened with violence and violence.

"Particular importance was considered to be that the nature of the crime, the interest in weapons, warfare and explosives, personality functioning with inadequate emotional resources, inflexible thinking patterns, vulnerability to stress and difficulty in social interaction, is in the risk profile.

Johansson may be conditionally released from prison on January 24, 2020.

ILuvBirdsEye · 25/09/2018 18:40

But it will never happen. Move along folks... nothing to see.

placemats · 25/09/2018 18:44

Do you have a link for this?

I agree it's incredibly disturbing. There are 10 million people living in Sweden, so the figures are roughly that of the UK and NI.

placemats · 25/09/2018 18:44

Sorry didn't see that link.

Thanks.

AssassinatedBeauty · 25/09/2018 18:45

If as a man you murder and dismember women, nothing you ever say or do should result in you being housed with women who cannot escape you. It's that simple.

The people who are allowing these decisions to be made are terrifying to me. Women are just collateral damage. Pawns to be used by men to please them, even men who murder women.

AdultHumanFemale · 25/09/2018 19:35

Kajsa Ekis Ekman ('Ekis' being a common nickname for someone who has Ekman for a surname, and she is known as these three names) is a lonely gender critical voice in Sweden. She is as sharp as they come, and extremely courageous, standing up for the rights of women and girls in a political climate which is almost entirely affirmative of the TRA ideology.
Her articles in the Swedish papers are available online and can be translated. I'm not on Twitter, so don't know if she is, but she could certainly do with some moral support, being ceaselessly hated on for years now. She is the real deal stunning and brave .

AsAProfessionalFekko · 25/09/2018 19:37

If he is a violent murderer then why is he not in the equivalent of Broadmoor?

SusanBunch · 25/09/2018 21:22

If he is a violent murderer then why is he not in the equivalent of Broadmoor?

Broadmoor is a psychiatric hospital, so it would not house those who do not have a recognised psychiatric condition. He is in the equivalent of a Cat A prison, but will now be moved to the equivalent of a Cat B women's prison, as there are no Cat A women's prisons in Sweden because, surprise surprise, female offenders are not as high risk as male ones.
Kajsa Ekis Ekman is fantastic.

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FruitCider · 25/09/2018 21:28

This is already happening in the uk, right here, right now. We are miles "ahead" of sweden when it comes to downgrading women's rights...

FruitCider · 25/09/2018 21:28

There are no cat B women's prisons. Only closed or open.

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