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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

#adulthumanfemale

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VodkaRevelation · 23/09/2018 08:50

Sorry if there is already a thread about this twitter hashtag which seems to have developed in response to the billboard.

There’s someone arguing the definition includes those who were ‘wrongly’ assigned male at birth using the Wikipedia definition of woman as supporting evidence.

Loads of posts saying I was born male but grew to be a woman. I am an #adulthumanfemale

(There’s one great post from a trans man who says accepting their brith sex was key to accepting themselves as trans.)

It’s just baffling. Open and brazen re-writing of language to mean something else.it doesn’t make any sense. X means this (oh and also this, even though it doesn’t fit at all with that first bit of the definition.)

I feel really riled up. I don’t fit their definition of woman. If people born male at birth can also be a woman then women don’t exist. Erasure. Trans women are trans women. I support their right to be and exist and be treated fairly. Women are women.

I am a woman. I have a vagina, I menstruated, I writhed in physical and emotional agony when I miscarried my second baby, I carried two children and bore them, my breasts made milk to feed them, I get treated differently to men because of my physical sex. Not all women experience those things but those things can only be experienced by a woman. They are key to my experience of being a woman.

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VodkaRevelation · 23/09/2018 10:25

That’s an interesting twitter account,@R0wantrees. Could get lost in there for hours getting more and more baffled and wound up.

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donquixotedelamancha · 23/09/2018 11:45

And at this point, I don’t think it’s on us to take the high ground.

I think it is, because the high ground holds the advantage. These anti-women activists going low and attacking women have done more to damage the acceptance of transvestites and transsexuals in 2 years than bigots have done in decades.

That hashtag consisting mostly of biological men hijacking a discussion of women's sex based rights does the opposite of what they intend. It makes the argument for us.

ManFriday have shown you can be attention grabbing, strong and women focused, without stooping to the AWA's level.

DuckingGoodPJs · 24/09/2018 01:53

What I've always said us that they'll come after any and every word used to describe us, no matter how ludicrous or demonstrably inappropriate. The goal is to stop women differentiating themselves.
Fully agree Barracker

These anti-women activists going low and attacking women have done more to damage the acceptance of transvestites and transsexuals in 2 years than bigots have done in decades.
So true don

I reached peak autogynosmirk pretty quickly reading it
Grin About four pics in is the peak Didactylos and definitely no unseeing it after that

Turph · 24/09/2018 07:52

R0wantrees
I'm trying to read through that account but it's making my eyes bleed. I might come back to it later...

deepwatersolo · 24/09/2018 08:24

Whoever's body ever produced sperm can never be an adult huma female. I bet every single one of those dudes saying they are #adulthumanfemales have at some point in their lives produced sperm that they saw with their own eyes.

So, I see no point in engaging with men who are either completely deluded or just obnoxious or scientifically illiterate. They can claim they are the Queen, Marie Antoinette, Supergirl or Napoleon for what I care.

Ereshkigal · 24/09/2018 08:44

So, I see no point in engaging with men who are either completely deluded or just obnoxious or scientifically illiterate. They can claim they are the Queen, Marie Antoinette, Supergirl or Napoleon for what I care.

Yes to this.

longtimelurkingtrans · 24/09/2018 09:17

Not sure if anyone interested but there is a counter hashtag to the adulthumanfemale on twitter, Seems to have gotten the backs up of those who claim twaw,

twitter.com/JustAngryBird/status/1043952384685338624

ThatEscalatedQuickly · 24/09/2018 09:27

That account seems to be primarily made up of moaning about titles and gender options on webpages.

I did see one post from someone who wants Wikipedia to change their 'deadname' on an election page. Seems the mods are holding firm which is making the individual concerned rather unhappy.

ThatEscalatedQuickly · 24/09/2018 09:28

Im referring to the everyday cissexism account just to be clear, not the one immediately above my last post.

AsAProfessionalFekko · 24/09/2018 09:30

#adulthumanmale is refreshing. Men in female attire who day 'I'm a man!!'

AsAProfessionalFekko · 24/09/2018 09:31

Sorry longtime - just saw your post!

Callmejudith · 24/09/2018 09:35

Total peaktrans.

There's no way I'd want any of those people who have used the hashtag anywhere near me in a safe space.

silentcrow · 24/09/2018 09:39

longtimelurkingtrans I'm amused that Fionne Orlander seems to have ordered an #adulthumanmale t-shirt. Now that is brave, given the abuse he'll likely get. I hope he finds the perfect skirt to go with it Smile He - and a number of posters on that thread - seem to have no desire to take what isn't theirs, and the #ditchthenarrative tag is well worth a look. Glad to see trans people kicking back against the TRAs.

longtimelurkingtrans · 24/09/2018 10:04

silentcrow
I fancy one of these t-shirts myself. I have to be careful of what I retweet over there as it wouldn't take a lot to out and report me to my super duper right on employer, might have to open a throw away account to tackle some of that doxing crowd over there.
But it is from my point of view exciting and refreshing to see transsexuals saying publicly they are males and transwomen/sexuals and not take what isn't ours.

silentcrow · 24/09/2018 19:49

longtimelurking no, I am sub rosa as well - public sector, fragile contract, and I need to interact with a very "right on" online crowd for work. If any of them break ranks I'll be right behind them, though (I know one has!). Fionne & co kinda make me sad, tbh - they remind me of lots of the lovely 80s boys that played with fashion but never lost sight of who they were under the clothes. It must be so much harder to just be.

IAmSproutycus · 24/09/2018 19:58

Just in case folks are looking for the link for the adult human females t shirts, it’s www.standingforfemales.com/shop

Voice0fReason · 24/09/2018 22:52

I wish we could ignore them, but the truth is that these people are changing laws and involving themselves in every part of our lives.

QuizteamBleakley · 24/09/2018 22:56

We don't have any language left to describe ourselves, or our oppression, do we? I'm so fucking sad and tired about it all. I wanted to support everyone but TRA's won't let that happen, it's full capitulation or nothing.

AverageWoman · 24/09/2018 23:06

But we're here, and we're having the discussions that anti-women activists don't want us to have! This is superb!

AsAProfessionalFekko · 25/09/2018 07:17

I wonder how many people were actually, truly offended by this? Why is is a 'crime' to upset people on the basis of stating a Fact? What best - posters taken down showing pregnant women because it upsets transsexuals m2f who will neve be able to be pregnant? If a wan come on on here and says that they are desperate to conceive but can't, and so hate to see pregnant women and mums with babies. What do we say? 'In the nicest possible way, get a grip and get help' not 'those bitches are doing it to spite YOU and shouldn't be allowed to flaunt their wombs'. But if a man get upset...

Sicario · 25/09/2018 07:26

As one of my daughters said, "I can say I identify as a peanut. It doesn't make me a fucking peanut though, does it?"

AsAProfessionalFekko · 25/09/2018 07:30

Can't we just drop the 'identify as' and call it what it is 'pretend to be'?

LittleLebowski · 25/09/2018 07:40

I quite enjoyed Fionne Orlander's take on pronoun usage too: "She: You engage with my illustration. They: You think I'll be offended, but thanks for the courtesy. He: You engage with the canvas"

AsAProfessionalFekko · 25/09/2018 07:46

I think Fionne comes across as very nice and funny. I hope he's real!

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