Request for info

[Imnobody4]

Am going to see my MP next week. Does anyone have a list of transwomen getting awards for women like Pip Bunce or being credited as 1st woman doing something or like Shon Faye and Amnesty? I wish I'd started a spreadsheet.

www.thesun.co.uk/news/1799205/sex-change-soldier-is-britains-first-female-to-fight-on-front-line-after-being-born-a-boy/

The Jo Cox women in Leadership Award seems to have included a few XY

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3268023-Jo-Cox-women-in-leadership-should-just-change-its-name

I don’t understand, Chloe the soldier in The Sun’s report is just clearly a biological male, how many times can I peak-trans?

It’s a complete lie to say Chloe is the first woman to fight in the frontline. How has the world become so insane while I was busy doing other things???

How wrong you are. Did you not see the silver nails and the earrings?
Clearly a woman!

P.S. they are all biological males. A small minority gave genital surgery. They are still biologically male

(extract)

"She will be the first woman allowed to engage the enemy in hand-to-hand combat.

Chloe, from Cumbria, has now started hormone therapy.

Sporting long polished nails and with silver studs in her ears, she said: “It’s a great honour to make history.

“I’m just looked at as a normal person.”

The Guardsman was still living as Ben Allen when a fellow serviceman discovered her dressed in female gear.

Chloe — who was on a deployment conducting ceremonial duties guarding royal residences in London — was overcome with worry.

But next day she went down for muster as usual and her comrade’s reaction set her nerves at ease.

Chloe, who serves with 1st Battalion, Scots Guards, said: “I went down to muster parade in the morning for PT and it was just mainly banter, just having a laugh.

“The whole sort of worry that I had, I shouldn’t have even worried."

I don't think the Sun would report that like that now. They have peak transed also

I mean of course I know they are all biological males! I understand the complete absurdity of this thread, I am just ranting because of the blantant lies that we are all somehow supposed to accept and if we don’t it’s “actual violence” and these hulking men who are capable of being on the front line are going to dissolve into quivering masses of emotional torment because women are being meanies.

I am just completely flabbergasted and baffled that we have got here. How are we denying the evident truth in front of our eyeballs that biological men are suddenly women because they got their ears pierced and nails done? Who and what is saying this ideology has got to such a point of normalization? OK I am still ranting.

So our day to day lives haven’t changed, I still can’t walk around my city at night alone because I am a woman, and you know, MEN. My teenage daughters are still yelled at in the street and public comments are made about their bodies because no know, MEN. But while nothing has changed AT ALL for women, men who like the idea of thinking of themselves as female have just barged in and grabbed all the goodies. And if we say “hang on a minute what is going on?” we are no debated, screamed at, shut down and verbally and physically abused.

Sounds about right. I am 50 yr old woman with three teens and I am going to explode. I feel like they are radicalizing masses of women. I was minding my own business and barely aware of politics a couple of years ago and now I know I am determined to become a very vocal activist and I am “training up” my three teens so they can confront this ideology that’s coming at them from every angle.

Sorry I know I am still just ranting, I am just peak-transing again all over this thread, sorry about the mess!

Movable

Oh me too!. My sarcasm sounded snippy. Sorry. It's so ridiculous

And yes, me too about being middle aged and having teens.

It's shocking how closed my eyes were. I thought I was a feminist. I had no idea how many men still hate us. I don't know how women who have been fighting this fight for years haven't exploded

The Wachowski twins have been retrospectively credited with being the first women to direct a film trilogy (the Matrix series), despite not transitioning until after Sharon Maguire had directed the Bridget Jones trilogy

This one makes me particularly cross, as it's directly taking away from a female achievement by re-writing history, leading to guff like this article

Let's not also forget the taking away of lesbian women's achievemenets by retrospectively transing them

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3013272-What-do-people-think-of-the-retrospective-transing-of-women-in-history

and

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3305890-Historically-Claiming-People-as-Trans

Thanks Crackpots I know that as “middle-aged women” we are most easily dismissed and our motherhood somehow makes us distasteful because it mixes being an independent woman, with still being potentially sexually attractive but yet also mothers and people in general find that hard to hold together. “Mums” and “motherhood” automatically conveys less authority and also the ability to be easily dismissed. I remember being aware of this when reading feminist texts on my own reccy when a teen. Separating women by generation helps men control them.

Now we have older Transwomen encouraging young women to transition to male. If only these young women could radicalize their thinking about who they are being encouraged to distance themselves from and not identify with: middle aged women. I think we are the most radical of the bunch because we are the ones being so aggressively silenced, so we must be the most scary and the most dangerous and I like that and I think it’s true.

I remember when I was coping with 3 kids aged 6 and under and I thought “nothing will seem hard ever again!” Women our age have been through the trenches knowing the reality of bringing kids into the world and raising them while still trying to maintain a sense of self. I have just turned 50 and I am happy to do so and at the same time I am feel energized and young at heart. By this age so many woman are very tough, strong, determined and know their own mind. This trans ideology has just exposed to us, as you say, the raw misogyny in our lives. It is just so incredible how half the population can be told to shut up and accept something and noone comes to our defense. I am just becoming more radicalised daily!

I sooo agree

I feel more kickass than I've ever done. I am more assertive that I ever was, because I am not trying to impress anyone. I will chain myself to railings when the time comes.

I do remember in my 20s wondering what on Earth my feminist MIL was going on about, just like these young women now. So sad. I soon learned

And when you "young" 50s get to my age you won't give a monkey's about being called a bigot, phobic or the forbidden T word either.
All water off a duck's back.

If you take a lengthy stroll through trans media watch twitter timeline, they methodically record and celebrate every time a male wins a woman's prize/award/job/grant etc etc.