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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

WEP article re actual female bodies

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MsMoppet · 15/09/2018 10:07

Long time lurker first time poster. Sorry if the link isn't clicky.

inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/sandi-toksvig-why-we-find-words-like-gynaecology-and-vulvodynia-hard-to-spell-and-pronounce/

I just saw this article and I was so shocked and frankly delighted to see a WEP policitican talking about women and women's bodies as if it were the most natural thing in the world.

Is WEP turning a corner here or am I over-reacting?

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LemonJello · 15/09/2018 11:02

Hello MsMoppet! So great when people come out of lurkdom, welcome!

I also think it’s a really good article and I love the policies of having “not tested on women” written on medication, and of reviewing female healthcare apparatus eg speculums to see if they can be better designed for greater comfort. And I think the fact that women is used without further qualification is positive, yes Smile

Ereshkigal · 15/09/2018 11:11

Good article, thanks for posting!

arranfan · 15/09/2018 11:33

iirc, that article is based on some of the talks from last weekend's WEP conference.

Yes, WEP are reasonably sound on that.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 15/09/2018 11:40

Oh yes to sorting out speculums. The plastic ones are better but still feel awful.

A couple of years ago my male gp was trying to put a coil in for me. The minute he got out a metal speculum I knew he was going to fuck it up, and he did. I had to tell him to stop in the end. Went to the (now shut) family planning clinic and had my coil expertly and painlessly inserted by a female doctor.

R0wantrees · 15/09/2018 11:41

"September is Gynaecological Cancer Awareness Month and organisations such as The Eve Appeal are encouraging women to get to know their bodies to help challenge the stigma and educate women and men about gynae cancers."

Eve Appeal Ambasadors:

Laura Coryton - Feminist Campaigner “Jokes aside, there’s a serious consequence to shaming women and more specifically, vaginas. Female-specific gynae cancer charities receive a minimal amount of funding and those with such devastating conditions often feel ashamed to talk about them. It’s just not okay. I have struggled with numerous tumours since I was 8, and I couldn’t have faced dealing with misogynistic shame as a consequence. This anxiety simply shouldn’t exist and it’s amazing organisations such as the Eve Appeal that make all the difference in supporting those at their most vulnerable.”

Nimco Ali - Feminist and social activist
Nimco is a feminist and social activist. She is co-founder and director of Daughters of Eve, a survivor-led organisation which has helped to transform the approach to ending female genital mutilation (FGM).

Cherry Healey - TV presenter
“Gynaecological cancers have such a low profile, in part I think because of the embarrassment and shame that existing around female genitalia. Many girls learn to feel ashamed of their vaginas, breasts and genitalia and as a result know very little about their anatomy. And if we don’t know our vagina from our vulva and what’s normal and not for us, then it will be much harder to spot the potential signs of gynaecological cancer."

Helen Lederer - Actress and Comedian
“Any cancer is devastating, but hidden cancers are the worst, as they often have a bad outcome. Gynaecological cancers come into this category and anything that helps early detection and cure has to be a cause worth fighting for."

Dr Monah Mansoori - GP and Health Expert
"The Eve appeal is a particularly special charity as it addresses both funding for the science behind improving outcomes and earlier detection as well as educating women and health workers on how to improve pickup rates. Part of this is tackling the stigma of talking about gynaecological problems more openly."

Caroline Hirons - Beauty and Skincare Expert
“Gynaecological cancers are so easily forgotten and my hope as an ambassador is that we will be able to reach out to women everywhere and get them talking about these cancers”.

eveappeal.org.uk/about-us/charity-information/meet-our-ambassadors/

There are five gynaecological cancers – womb, ovarian, cervical, vaginal and vulval – but awareness levels of these cancers are very low.

There are common signs and symptoms across some of the gynaecological cancers such as abnormal vaginal bleeding. Other signs are less obvious, and could be due to different health conditions, for example abdominal bloating can indicate Irritable Bowel Syndrome.

Each year in the UK, over 21,000 women are diagnosed with a form of gynaecological cancer. This equates to 58 women receiving this life-changing news every day. Sadly 21 women will die from a gynaecological cancer every day.

AncientLights · 15/09/2018 11:45

Shocking how Sandi centres women - doesn't she know not all women have vaginas, let alone clitoreses? So very excluding - she's destined for the gulag if she keeps this up.

arranfan · 15/09/2018 11:49

I was at a late viewing at the National Portrait Gallery last night and, in passing, saw a painting with a small Venus figurine (think Willendorf Venus - blank facial features, exaggerated breasts and buttocks).

It has belatedly occurred to me that the pinkification of female cancer has lead to this concentration of resources on the outward manifestations of sex that matter not only to women...

So, negligible funding and awareness of gynaecological cancers and some frankly shoddy advice, awareness, research around breast cancer.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 15/09/2018 11:55

I was really interested and somewhat daunted to read that women are 60% more likely to experience side effects because drugs have not been tested on women.

I take 13 different tablets a day. When I saw the physio she told me I was fighting an uphill battle as the main side effects of three of my pills are weight gain and for two of them it's tiredness. So heaven only knows what else is going on.

R0wantrees · 15/09/2018 11:58

Funding into research into treatments for gyny cancers has also been declining in the last few years aranfan

"Survival from ovarian cancer is much worse than for many other cancers, due to late diagnosis and a lack of effective treatment options. Research into new treatments lags significantly behind other cancer types and in recent years there has been a worrying decline in the UK’s spend on ovarian cancer research . Funding is urgently required to support exciting new ideas, driving these to become the new treatments that are so desperately needed."

www.targetovariancancer.org.uk/ovarian-cancer-research

R0wantrees · 15/09/2018 12:01

"Action on Womb Cancer (AWC) is a UK charity dedicated to raising awareness of womb cancer, also known as endometrial or uterine cancer.

Womb cancer is a gynaecological cancer. It is the fourth most common cancer in women, yet very little is known about it. Action on Womb Cancer is changing this."

www.actiononwombcancer.org.uk/new-page-3.html

"Signs and Symptoms of Womb Cancer
The key sign to look out for is:

abnormal vaginal bleeding

that is

vaginal bleeding after the menopause
vaginal bleeding between periods
heavier than usual periods or watery/bloody vaginal discharge."

R0wantrees · 15/09/2018 12:08

"Cervical Screening in the UK
In the UK, we are fortunate to have excellent cervical screening programmes that save thousands of lives every year. However, of the five million women invited every year for screening, over one in four don’t attend.

"The three times I did call the doctors to arrange an appointment they had no[ne] available to book at all"

Whether women can easily access screening is dependent on their location and personal circumstances with some groups of women, including the transient population, those living with a physical disability and women who have experienced sexual violence, further disadvantaged. We found barriers affecting accessibility of cervical screening include:

Lack of appointments
Reduction of availability at sexual health services
IT systems preventing innovation
Insufficient incentives
Fragmented governance and commissioning in England

www.jostrust.org.uk/about-us/our-research-and-policy-work/our-research

"The long term consequences of cervical cancer and its treatment are often underestimated.

Our report aims to better understand the profound impact of living beyond a cervical cancer diagnosis by identifying the challenges faced by women, in addition to gaps in provision of care and support delivered.

Key Findings
Eighty-eight percent of women have experienced at least one, 63% at least three and 24% at least six physical long term consequences of their cervical cancer treatment
Women are suffering in silence with a clear disparity between those affected by long term consequences of their treatment and those who have spoken to a doctor. This is most pertinent for women who have had lymphoedema or experienced a negative impact on their sex life, fertility or bones
Only half of women who have experienced bowel and urinary problems had received treatment (41% and 54% respectively) and for those who have experienced negative changes in their sex life, just 10% had received treatment"

www.jostrust.org.uk/about-us/our-research-and-policy-work/our-research/long-term-consequences-cervical-cancer-and-its

MsMoppet · 15/09/2018 12:26

It is quite shocking when you stop and think about lack of awareness of female health problems, especially the "embarrassing" ones. I've actually had vulvodynia and vestibulitis and I've never seen them mentioned in mainstream media before. There was that SATC episode when one of them had a depressed vagina but not great for awareness raising of the facts of the condition.
Thank you for all the posts about the gynae cancer signs - well worth brushing up on symptoms.

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R0wantrees · 15/09/2018 12:44

MsMoppet

It would be wonderful if in the last couple of weeks of September awareness of Gyny Cancer became more widespread.

Its really key that people can talk about about it.

I've been involved with awareness raising. My gyny cancer was caught by chance and fortunately at a very early stage.

CRUK have removed the word woman from all descriptors of gyny cancer and their cervical cancer campaign this June for 'everyone with cervixes' risks lives rather than the alternative 'women' which may cause offence.

fairplayforwomen.com/cancer_research_drops_woman/
womansplaceuk.org/cervical-cancer-is-a-womens-issue/

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3277806-Cancer-Research-anyone-with-a-cervix

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3278840-Come-off-it-Cancer-Research-UK

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3287119-Had-a-reply-from-CRUK-re-cervix-havers

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