The death of women's sports?

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Sorry but seeing the threads on British Gymnastics and Kathleen Stock's comments on the race have made me seriously question what women's sports will look like in 10-15 years from now. We have an obesity crisis; we have women and girls under-exercising (esp once they hit puberty) and we now have a movement that would eventually make it impossible for natal women to win in some sports and leave them more vulnerable to injury in others. There is also the issue of having to share dressing rooms with natal boys/men.

I already decided against enrolling my daughter for gymnastics for a variety of reasons (including safeguarding) but have been considering team sports. I do wonder now about her safety if she starts to have to play against teams with natal boys.

And no I am not a pearl clutcher - I evaluate risk quite carefully. The risks of never being able to win at an individual sport, injury in a team sport and having to share a changing room with a natal boy when would prefer privacy and dignity for her developing body are real. Maybe not now she is so young but with the policies that are being put in place and the creeping acceptance of these nonsensical practices what will women's sport look like when she is at her peak age for performance? Will her and her friends still bother with sport or will these policies have driven women and girls out? Do the governing bodies advocating these policies care?

There's not much advantage in being a male diver, is there? The women seem better at completing the somersaults, possibly because they are smaller and have more flexibility in the hips. There's mixed synchro diving now.

Competitive rhythmic gymnastics is still female-only in Europe and synchronised swimming has no male-only category. If men wanted to have their own competitions in these sports that would be fine, obviously.

Point and laugh. It's the strongest weapon we've got.*

Philippa York, what a joke.
Hannah Mouncey, what a joke.
Laurel Hubbard, what a joke.
Andraya Yearwood, what a joke.

*channelling Margaret Atwood: Men are afraid women will laugh at them...

It will be very interesting to see how Japan (next olympics) deals with the whole trans issue.
Their own rules about transitioning are very very strict. and it is a very sex segregated culture with a lot of sex segregated spaces... I would say their public toliets are often not always set up differently.
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/japan-transgender-people-sterilise-before-transition-gender-change-lgbt-rights-a8086341.html

It only takes one man to claim he identifies as a woman, enter Wimbledon and beat Serena, and that will be the death of women's tennis.

There should be a Trans Olympics, just as there is Paralympics. Ensures fairness, safety and the protection of women's sport.

As it stands, allowing boys and men to compete against women and girls is a lie.

And it's cheating.

Hadn't thought about the Japan Olympics. Not sure how well this would go down if men take women's medals.

Article today on the BBC Website saying that a female Paralympic athlete has possibly been encouraged by her coach to exaggerate her disabilities in order to compete in Paralympic events.

This just shows the lengths that ambitious people will go to in order to win at their sports, and may be applicable in the future to men deciding to compete as Transwomen.

I read that. Her old coach was most surprised to see her competing as blind when she had previously had learn.
difficulties.

I imagine her learning difficulties may have made her open to manipulation.

A coach also tried to say that she had a previously undiagnosed health issue like cerebral palsy and tried to convince her that she was more disabled than she actually was. Other athletes were suspicious but no one seemed to raise their concerns.

The Paralympic thing also demonstrates that it's not just the athlete who stands to gain from them doing well