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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Cambridge University Women's Liberation Campaign 'Feminist Dictionary'

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Spartacus002244 · 10/09/2018 08:33

Cambridge University has a women's liberation campaign! What a wonderful idea. Except that it is for anyone who 'self-identifies' as a woman or non-binary person, which makes me wonder exactly what they think women need liberation from. www.cusu.co.uk/about/liberation-campaigns/the-womens-campaign/

Fortunately for us newcomers to Cambridge, the campaign website offers a handy 'feminist dictionary' so that we understand what they mean. Unfortunately, in parts this dictionary is as feminist as the Ministry of Love is loving. I'll provide some highlights. (MNHQ, I know I'm using banned terms in quotation, which I think is allowed - if not, I'd really appreciate if you could just remove those parts of my OP and let the post stand).

I think my personal favourite part is where they accuse GC feminists of 'redefining' feminism to be about liberating women from oppression, when they are ostensibly supposed to be the women's liberation campaign. I despair. That or biological sex somehow being 'colonialist' as if people outside the Western world didn't know how reproduction worked.

Here's the dictionary: docs.google.com/document/d/1z-K1QffTp4L1LIynp880Gl_YLoDf2JwlbhBZEiwdSBQ/edit which is publicly available. Note that they didn't have a go at defining 'woman'. Or 'feminism' for that matter. Everything below this point is their words, not mine.

SELF-IDENTIFICATION: The process by which you inform the world of what you consider yourself to be. To say, ‘I am a woman’ is to self-identify, as is, ‘I was assigned a female gender at birth but I identify as a man’, or ‘I was assigned a female gender at birth and I identify as a woman.’ [Cis people self-identify no less than trans people.]

AFAB/DFAB or AMAB/DMAB: Assigned/Designated Female At Birth or Assigned/Designated Male At Birth. Refers to sex/gender assigned at birth - in most places (including the UK) this is either Male or Female. Some individuals, especially within the trans community, prefer to use CAMAB/CAFAB, including the word Coercively to emphasise that their gender assignment at birth was done without their consent.

SEX: The term "sex" has a complicated history. Its origins are in trying to tie together colonial ideas about binary gender and biological dimorphism observed in humans and in nature. It is still often used to attempt to categorise people as either male or female based on their gendered physical traits (like breasts, facial hair, estrogen/testosterone level, whether they have a Y chromosome, etc...). Whilst some trans advocates encourage this usage in order to distinguish between the psychological and physical aspects of gender, others are critical of it as it this distinction can be used to grant legitimacy to Sex Assigned At Birth (SAAB) over people's gender. Sex-terminology (male or female) is also sometimes used synonymously with gender-terminology (man or woman). When describing anyone apart from yourself you should consider sex-terminology to be gendered. i.e. never describe a trans woman as male or a trans man as female unless they have specified that this is okay for you to do.

SWERF: stands for Sex Worker Exclusionary Radical Feminist. This group opposes women's participation in pornography and prostitution. The term was coined to match that of TERF, as their memberships overlap. Their ideology also overlaps as both subgroups follow a prescriptive, normative approach to feminism; i.e., telling women what to do — TERFs with their gender, and SWERFs with their sexuality. SWERFs object to the objectification and exploitation of women within pornography and the sex industry, as well as the violence and abuse that sex workers frequently suffer. But they often go overboard and pour hatred over sex-workers who choose their profession freely, as opposed to because of human trafficking. This kind of bullying and oppression is known as whorephobia.

T(W)ERF: stands for Trans (Women) Exclusionary Radical Feminist. Transphobic radfems seem to almost universally reject the concept of cisgender privilege, and even the term ‘cisgender’ itself, as somehow demeaning to ‘women born women’ (another controversial term in LGBTQ+ circles). In other words, TERFs go so far as to reject any terminology models (for words such as ‘woman’ or ‘man’) that are not based on biological organs, gametes, or chromosomes. Thus (re)defining their own movement as that ‘of women to liberate women from oppression, and that female biological reality is a defining aspect of women's experience of oppression.’ There is often an inability to recognise intersectionality, which, along with the prejudice against trans women, makes them incompatible with the majority of feminist circles.

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JellySlice · 10/09/2018 08:36

🤮

JellySlice · 10/09/2018 08:37

Sorry, not the most constructive post, but FGS do people really think like that? What numpty wrote that bilge?

deepwatersolo · 10/09/2018 08:40

So, this is a campaign to free women from womanhood?

hackmum · 10/09/2018 08:41

These people are supposed to be the creme de la fucking creme. Heaven help us.

So much to take issue with, but "Cis people self-identify no less than trans people" - really? I bloody don't.

Not going to say any more just yet as it will only get more sweary. Deep breaths.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 10/09/2018 08:42

This is the student union, not the university itself, yes?

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 10/09/2018 08:43

It seems to be a campaign to liberate women from feminism, sex-based rights, and critical thinking. Which we can all help with by being nice to men and supporting porn.

On the other hand, it gives me another reason to be snarky about Cambridge...

TooMuchPenis · 10/09/2018 08:44

lol

deepwatersolo · 10/09/2018 08:47

No wonder the Catholic Church got away with the 'this is literally Christ's blood here now' stick. Humans are mostly gullible and enjoy being led down the garden path, apparently.

(FYI: I grew up Catholic, still kind of am, culturally, but I remember even as a small child I knew the claim of the priest 'literally drinking Christ's blood' every Sunday was bonkers.)

Oh and when the Pope John Paul died, almost all my school mates were convinced this meant the immediate end of the world, because of some 'prophecy' of kids who had 'seen' Holy Mary somewhere a century ago.

Ereshkigal · 10/09/2018 08:48

What inane drivel.

Spartacus002244 · 10/09/2018 08:50

JellySlice that was pretty much my reaction too, to be honest.

hackmum True! But I'm guessing you aren't 'cis'? - which they helpfully describe as "An adjective for a person who identifies as the gender they were assigned at birth." So much wrong in that one sentence

Countess Yes, it is the student union. Sorry for not thinking to mention that in my OP.

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ballsballsballs · 10/09/2018 08:56

Oh FFS.

IAmLurkacus · 10/09/2018 08:56

Cambridge university has always been a misogynistic cesspit full of people suffering from delusions of grandeur as well as other delusions.

My apologies to Dr Em and all the other nice normal people who have been there/currently attend, you have my sympathy for what you have to deal with.

This needs to be a follow up news story to the BACP definition of ‘woman’.

titchy · 10/09/2018 08:57

Christ, makes you wonder about the critical thinking abilities of their students.... It's like a campaign to end child kidnap being led by the child catcher in chitty chitty bang bang.

deepwatersolo · 10/09/2018 09:01

It's like a campaign to end child kidnap being led by the child catcher in chitty chitty bang bang.

Well, if you redefine 'child', kidnap' and 'catcher', what the child catcher does ain't child kidnap any more. So...

Spartacus002244 · 10/09/2018 09:11

And you thought it couldn't get worse? Look at the background image for their website. Pictures of different women - oh, but wait, who is that on the bottom left? Not a man who likes to call himself a 15-year old girl and complain about not being allowed in women's changing rooms, surely?

www.womens.cusu.cam.ac.uk/feminist-faq/

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bzzbeebzz · 10/09/2018 09:15

Jesus wept

BarrackerBarmer · 10/09/2018 09:16

Good grief.
I hope none of them are reading physiology.

Idiots.

Starkstaring · 10/09/2018 09:25

3 guesses as to what sex the person writing this was (coercively or otherwise) assigned at birth.

Cascade220 · 10/09/2018 09:31

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HawkeyeInConfusion · 10/09/2018 09:32

Wtf?

I really can't find the words to express my contempt for that utter drivel. And these people are supposed to be our future?

Juells · 10/09/2018 09:39

Alicethroughtheblackmirror

It seems to be a campaign to liberate women from feminism, sex-based rights, and critical thinking. Which we can all help with by being nice to men

^^ this

Don't you just love when "feminists" lay out their stall by attacking women with a different viewpoint? Do they not in any way notice how conditioned they've been to be nice? If you referred to them as 'girls' they'd lose their shit, but they're reverting to teenage girl 1950's behaviour. OK to refer to them as cis women though, which is 1000 times more insulting.

Juells · 10/09/2018 09:45

but wait, who is that on the bottom left?

What strikes me about that person is the expression and the position of the hand. Lecturing. Expounding. Explaining.

Juells · 10/09/2018 09:54

Sorry for third post in a row but I can't help noticing that the main target seems to be terfs and swerfs.

What’s a TERF?
TERF stands for Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist. TERFS use biological essentialism to maintain the harmful notion that trans women are not women because oppression is sex based. There is a long history of TERFS excluding those assigned male at birth from the feminist movement, advocating violence against them and denying their womanhood.

What is a SWERF?
SWERF stands for sex worker exclusionary radical feminist. Feminists who took part in the ‘sex wars’ debate of the 70s and 80s deemed pornography and sex work as tools of patriarchy and shunned women involved in these practices. SWERFs view sex workers as ‘traitors’ to the feminist movement... etc..

BiologyIsReal · 10/09/2018 16:52

I've often thought that the more "intelligent" people are the stupider they actually are, as in taken all leave of common sense.

Jeez hope none of them plan to be doctors. We have Dr Harrop already and that's enough ignorance to fill an entire university.

ErrolTheDragon · 10/09/2018 17:09

Meanwhile in the engineering department students can still write essays on 'women in engineering' ( and why there aren't enough of them) and talk about good old fashioned structural sexism. You know, the sort that's due to biological sex.