Counter stickers where trans women say they will throw bricks!

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I feel this slogan was misjudged.

Yeah I doubt a lot of people will get the reference to Stonewall. Not a great message at all. Wonder why they didn't go with "some women have penises"?

(And I wish they'd stop lying abput Stonewall!)

Ha. It's obviously connected to the myth that a transwoman threw the first brick at the Stonewall riots, but who would know that? It just makes transactivism look violent.

"Uppity" is an interesting choice of word.

I also wish they'd stop lying about stonewall!

Don't build your movement on cultural appropriation and violence #toptip

It reads like a threat.

Good thread about that sticker:

twitter.com/JammersMinde/status/1038149194974982144

Do entertain yourself with some of the comments. I particularly enjoyed, the serious seeming enquiries about whether the stickers would adhere to bricks (asking for a friend) and the more enquiry

Is this advocating stoning? So progressive, so stunning so brave

Violent males are violent: now in pastel stripes.

Yes, it's one of the most perfect encapsulations of the heart of the debate I can think of. Women put up stickers stating a simple fact of biology. TRAs respond with a sticker that says Transwomen will throw bricks - and that they will do so first.

GC women say they will defend themselves if they are physically attacked and they are dragged into court to face prosecution. TRAs make actual stickers stating threats that they will be violent and aggressive.

So many women have said "Let the TRAs speak", and this is why we don't bother with #nodebate. TRAs quite simply cannot help but let their misogynistic aggression show, you just have to give them the space.

For some reason I now have Tom Cruise in my head talking about how Jack Nicholson's character in A Few Good Men wants to tell everyone what he thinks.

I might buy some or create similar

“A transwoman battered a 60 yo woman who didn’t agree with her”

Yeah they haven't really thought that one through.

My username is an unfortunate pun.

I love this sticker. While they have the huge organisations and government behind them, their grassroots activism is absolutely atrocious

It just goes to show how Establishment the trans cult is. Imagine if an anti-racist collective wrote a sticker that says "Muslims in Britain will throw the first bricks". The politicians and Newscorp and the Met would be all over it in a flash.

Shouldn't they have said "Threw the first brick" rather than "Throw the first bricks"?

Can't claim it's a historical point when its a present tense threat

Oh boy, that is spectacularly tone deaf!

Worried that women are saying things that you disagree with, like pointing out the elements of toxic masculinity in your movement? Lob bricks at them! Nothing says gentle and feminine like threats of violence

NB, be sure to colour your bricks in a pastel palette. this is also super-feminine.

On a more serious note, let's not forget that Linda Bellos will be appearing in court soon to answer charges of her saying she will defend herself if attacked.

Let's not pretend this is a level playing field. One group can threaten violence, rape and death with impunity. The other group must walk on eggshells at all time, and never, NEVER react to the provocation - not even to point out that the first group is proving the point about why they're worried.

And wierdest of all, the second group just coincidentally happens to be overwhelmingly female! What are the odds?

I've been busy on that Twitter thread. Nicked Crow's comment for one Tweet. Hope you weren't planning on using it yourself, Crow? Mind you, a good succinct point bears repeating. Succinct isn't my strong point, as anyone who reads my MN screeds will attest.

I read that as transphobic. Ie, produced by someone who hates transwomen.

Uppity - that is rarely used by women. This is a term used by males about women who they thnk should stfu. Clearly the person who came up with this has a male gender identity.

Yes - well put iamawoman.

I thought it an odd choice - uppity is something I've only heard my dad use against pesky women who have the temerity to disagree with him - and you have put exactly why.

Women don't use uppity to describe themselves or each other (at least I've never heard it) as it is very definitely a word that is for MEN to use, to slag off women who step out of their position (by assuming they have the same right to speak as a man / assuming their views are as important as a man's).

A woman can't be uppity to a woman, that's not the way it's used. It has male > female dynamic built it. It is a misogynistic turn of phrase.

I expect they wil say they are "reclaiming" it if anyone points this out lol

Oh wow I just googled it and the dictionaries all give examples used "uppity man".

One is "uppity MP and his lady wife"!!!

That is interesting.

Is it because male is default and this is theoretcially unisex even though in practice I've NEVER heard it said of a man.

I can't get past "uppity" because of the racist overtones - possibly this is a generational thing or there's a movement to 'reclaim' it but it's like a visceral blow to read it.

Are these stickers actually produced and endorsed by trans women??

Honestly, if I saw one of those, it looks like such a negative message, that my first assumption would be that it had been made by someone who’s anti-trans.

I didn't know it had racist overtones?
Will have a google.

Ah - is that an american usage? The racist usage?