Why are we posting on this board?

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Of course self-ID, and all the stuff around it, is a major feminist issue, but sometimes I feel we're in our own little echo-chamber.

Shouldn't we be posting further afield in Mumsnet? About blockers and binders in Health, about disclosure and affirmation in Parenting and in Education, about Swim England guidelines and Hannah Mouncey in Sports, about Jess and Lily in Politics, etc, and any other board where the topic is relevant.

Of course there will be posters who will moan that we should keep our boring, transphobic, penis-obsession in Feminism, but more people need to know about this.

So many women instinctively (stereotypically?) want to treat gender dysphoric transpeople with compassion, and are oblivious to the bigger picture because they don't look at the Feminism board. I never used to - I found it daunting, and as frightening as AIBU or S&B.

I agree and did consider this for the Stonewall post but I was concerned that the post would be more likely to be removed from a different part of the site.

I think there are a lot more lurkers on FWR than you realise.

I do appreciate what you're saying but there's a benefit to collating a lot of the material in FWR where it's easier to reference.

Shouldn't we be posting further afield in Mumsnet?

Yes we should be doing.

there's a benefit to collating a lot of the material in FWR where it's easier to reference yes, but it's not either/or.

There's been a sea change, I think. There's a lot more agreement in the non-FWR boards than there was, say, 6 months ago.

I was out flyering with Fair Play For Women at the weekend. We were talking to people in the street. Of those who stopped to speak to us, the vast, vast majority of women we spoke to did not want male bodies in female spaces. The public is onside, but most don't know this is happening.

So I totally agree, we need to post outside our bubble as well as in here - which does reach loads of people, but a different audience.

I'm guessing some people can't go public because of their jobs or threats/doxxing and the supposed bigotry of defending WR.

But how do we combat the stigma unless word gets out?

I'm trying to trans peak friends and families and am waiting for my Fairplay packs to arrive.

I've seen my MP, though some MPs are refusing to keep open minds.

I'm going to try councillor's and my son's school.

15,000 to 177,000 direct entrants to this part of MN in just one year.

That's why.

(per month increase, sorry)

If anyone is interested in posting on other parts of MN or thinks we ought to be doing so I'd ask what's stopping them from doing so themselves?

15,000 to 177,000 direct entrants to this part of MN in just one year.

Probably all came here from twitter after reading how horrible we are.

Because hundreds maybe thousands of us read your posts and learn

I came here because Twitter is fucking toxic and abusive if you're remotely GC.

I ventured into a FB women's group (not badged as GC) discussion of a related issue recently, got absolutely savaged - honestly, you'd think I'd eaten a kitten online or something the way this woman went for me - and backed right off. The names she called me, the way she screamed at me in writing - I felt afraid, I really did.

I pulled myself out of the group immediately.

eaten a kitten online. Bet that was what you were soliciting recipe suggestions for the other evening, you evil kitty-eating bitchbag 🙄

Sorry to hear you got an aggressive response on FB.

I think anyone who regularly comes on Mumsnet will probably see posts in Active Conversations anyway and at least be aware of them.

However, I do feel totally in a bubble here on Mumsnet and on Twitter, where I post under an anonymous name. I recently brought up a gender critical view about Trans when I was out with some friends, and I saw that they looked at me in horror, as if I had said something really racist or homophobic. My DH even goes as far as tellling me that he has no interest at all.

My colleague has a trans DC so I have to keep quiet on Facebook etc. Was very hard to keep quiet recently in a Facebook group where women were discussing how good it is that new guidance for the menopause will be written in a gender neutral way without mentioning the word woman!

I've often felt, during 23 years of MNing, that it would be useful to be able to start a thread which showed up in 2 topics - SN and Education would have been really useful at one stage, Health and Food when DH was diagnosed with his allergies.
Looking at recent threads, FWR/Politics and FWR/Extra Curricular would be useful.
I know I'm dreaming....

• 13 years. 23 would give me dividends surely!

Yup 100% agree... I do post on other boards - Im so aware that I came here by accident 9 months ago.... and am keen to lure others in.

No-one I meet in RL knows this is happening - and when they do hear more, can't believe that it is.

It feels really important to take discussions into other places... and also to tease out ideas too... So I do both!

IAmSproutycus

I know and I ended up having to eat the fecker raw because people kept banging on about "TWAW".

Was very hard to keep quiet recently in a Facebook group where women were discussing how good it is that new guidance for the menopause will be written in a gender neutral way without mentioning the word woman!

I simultaneously want and do not want to believe that...

I do occasionally start relevant threads outside FWR. Always get jumped on with variants on "This is boring! Get back in your box! Transphobia!" though never as nasty as the things you read outside the Mumsnetosphere. Then a defender of free speech turns up, and sometimes some of the really knowledgeable regulars from FWR.

It would be brilliant if we could post one thread under multiple boards - almost like tagging.

new guidance for the menopause will be written in a gender neutral way without mentioning the word woman!

Given that new guidance on cervical cancer has been written without mentioning the word woman...

Another one who's left a group on Facebook because of being called a t*RF and told to get into the sea. It was a group of people I have known for more than 10 years and I got completely piled upon, told that women's sports were irrelevant and told by a lesbian that my GC attitudes obviously meant that I was a complete homophobe. I left before I had the nerve to ask her how she felt about lady dick. One of the posters has a trans identifying child but apparently that means women's rights are fair game to be sacrificed.

I felt incredibly vulnerable posting under my real name but I think I peaked a few people when I pointed out that their DH suddenly deciding to be a women would not be considered grounds for divorce....

This board has been transformative for me. There's enough threads in AIBU to keep it fresh in people's minds.

Post where you want and let the moaners moan. There is one reply I had to such a post (not been here long.) that will always stick with me 😂 it replied to someone who had told me to get back to the feminist forum-
“The poster can post wherever she wants, it’s got fuck all to do with you.”
That literally made my night.

I could have missed it(apologies if so!) but what about
“I’m gender critical” AMA that would get some great questions. A month ago for me I would have asked “what’s that??”

"...About blockers and binders in Health, about disclosure and affirmation in Parenting and in Education, about Swim England guidelines and Hannah Mouncey in Sports, about Jess and Lily in Politics, etc, ..."

I've ever heard of any of the above. What on earth are they?

I'd imagine those who post on Mumsnet also post elsewhere.

Was very hard to keep quiet recently in a Facebook group where women were discussing how good it is that new guidance for the menopause will be written in a gender neutral way without mentioning the word woman!

This makes me an angry woman.

Trying to explain the plot of this once dystopian tragedy is harder than explaining the plot of Vanilla Sky.

One found this lot of weetabixers here when it shows up in active

Then one learnt then one learns others.

Then it continues

Not many ppl know about this in real life

It is being crept in

their DH suddenly deciding to be a women would not be considered grounds for divorce....

...and that it turns the wives magically into lesbians