Why are we posting on this board?

[JellySlice]

Of course self-ID, and all the stuff around it, is a major feminist issue, but sometimes I feel we're in our own little echo-chamber.

Shouldn't we be posting further afield in Mumsnet? About blockers and binders in Health, about disclosure and affirmation in Parenting and in Education, about Swim England guidelines and Hannah Mouncey in Sports, about Jess and Lily in Politics, etc, and any other board where the topic is relevant.

Of course there will be posters who will moan that we should keep our boring, transphobic, penis-obsession in Feminism, but more people need to know about this.

So many women instinctively (stereotypically?) want to treat gender dysphoric transpeople with compassion, and are oblivious to the bigger picture because they don't look at the Feminism board. I never used to - I found it daunting, and as frightening as AIBU or S&B.

must be some form of transubstantiation

I come here to vent.

But I do like my tellyaddicts.

I occasionally post elsewhere.

I think the problem is that you have to keep going back to basics in order to communicate.

I was utterly baffled for a long time.

Very interesting post that, littlebrowndog :-).

Also I’d far rather be told to get to fuck for posting on a popular board rather than remain silent. Especially if the women on the other end is not being nice. Fed up with being told to be nice on other places. Being nice gets women killed. And to paraphrase a quote from someplace else, they’ll kill and abuse women anyway, so fuck being nice.

Llangcleg how do you know what the stats for board usage are?

There was a thread on it. Someone had asked MNHQ and they had supplied the info.

June 2017: 15k
June 2018: 177k

Rebecca36

"...About blockers and binders in Health, about disclosure and affirmation in Parenting and in Education, about Swim England guidelines and Hannah Mouncey in Sports, about Jess and Lily in Politics, etc, ..."

I've ever heard of any of the above. What on earth are they?

Blockers: drugs to block puberty. Binders: tight undergarments to squash breasts. Both presented as harmless and helpful, both dangerous and unregulated.
Disclosure: organisations are being told that, if a child makes a disclosure about being trans, they should keep it a secret from the child's parents. This is a dangerous contravention of safeguarding.
Affirmation: organisations are being told that declarations of trans identity should only ever be affirmed, never queried or explored.
Swim England issued guidelines (since retracted, probably due to the actions of Mumsnetters, in particular Girl Friday) that transwomen are entitled to use the female changing rooms, and any women who object should be "re-educated".
Hannah Mouncey is a transwoman Aussie Rules Football player who dangerously injured female players while playing in a female team.

Jess

Lily...where to start? Just search Lily Madigan on Mumsnet - you will not be disappointed!

I'm a lurker on this board. De-lurking to tell you that. I've learned a lot from reading on this board, I can't be the only one.

Thank you Jelly Slice. I share your dismay.

Mumsnetters (and I'm pretty sure they are) have done some excellent work in the comment section of the Times for a while now bringing it all to a wider public. Not only writing great comments but linking to petition, various websites like Fairplay for Women and Twitter conversations. I'm sure there are some on other paper's comment sections as well.

I only really visit here now; I miss the other threads in other areas. I'd definitely miss out on many threads though I agree it's worth putting threads in other places of appropriate.

It's worth posting a link here to any thread elsewhere.

There really are many more lurkers than you'd imagine.

I know what you mean but FWR threads appear in active convos quite a lot so hopefully they’re being seen (as long as people haven’t hidden FWR, I find that a very odd thing to do).

But yes, threads in other specific topics would be good.

I've posted a thread in style and beauty about gendered clothing. No bites yet.

AIBU gets far more gender critical type posts than it used to. I've seen gender critical and feminist posts in _chat too. You need to look there first them.

I occasionally post here to show that I am listening. I don't usually have anything to add that hasn't already been said. I have read so much that I am starting to feel pretty clued up on topics outlined here that I didn't know about a year ago.
My DM doesn't have the internet, but knows a lot more about certain things going on now because of you guys.

I agree the message needs to get wider but perhaps thanks to places like this it is - the PR generated around the discussions etc.

Slightly different question but what was on Feminism chat before all the Self ID stuff I was wondering??

The only person that I’ve actually had a “informed” debate with was a Woke man, who thinks your sex is about what’s in your heart and soul. He also claims to be an atheist....

Everyone else I’ve spoken to offline didn’t realise that Transgender was an umbrella term, they thought it was just a new term for Transexuals. They didn’t know about half of the bollocks going and at first didn’t believe me that there were Male bodies in women’s prisons. They consider it common sense that some places are out of access for males.