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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Just explain the recipe shit to me please

144 replies

speakingwoman · 03/09/2018 12:29

Just that. I am, I suspect, very slightly on the spectrum and I find it confusing and stress-inducing. It always reminds me of experiences of being bullied.

Is it something I should interpret as a signal that one or more pp is not in good faith?

Is there some positive intent behind it?

Please don’t reply by repeating it.

OP posts:
Juells · 03/09/2018 19:07

Libfems are all for the menz

placemats · 03/09/2018 19:08

Am I fighting?

Sorry, I struggle a bit with social context myself.

speakingwoman · 03/09/2018 19:24

sorry about the twitter thing Schrodinger.

I guess it's just not worth thinking about overmuch.

OP posts:
Floisme · 03/09/2018 19:31

No sorry you’re not fighting placemats I just meant I don’t want to make a big fuss about it. I was pissed off at the time but I got over myself! I will check though - it will have to be later as I’m at a family do at the moment but I’m curious myself now.

I’ll be mortified if I’ve remembered it wrong but I promise to come back and fess up if I have!

placemats · 03/09/2018 19:37

Be careful though.

On a serious note. There was a trans ally on here who was misquoted on twitter as a transphobe and t**f. It was awful. The poster had dyslexia.

ShrodingersSturdyPyjamas · 03/09/2018 19:47

sorry about the twitter thing Schrodinger

Gosh that is nothing compared to what I have been through since going back onto twitter a year ago. I find it hilarious.

Also it brings more clicks in so win win.

bd67th · 03/09/2018 20:39

the doors flung open for women to do as we please with no presupposition as to what that might be

Choices that harm other women are not feminist choices.

Not one mention of liberating women and girls from male violence or male sexual entitlement there. Not one. Libfems never stop to think about why women are structurally oppressed.

RatRolyPoly · 03/09/2018 21:14

Choices that harm other women are not feminist choices.

Well no shit.

So women must be liberated from the patriarchy so they can be ruled over by feminism? No woman shall be allowed to do something which disadvantages another woman? All women must be feminists first and foremost? That's some bullshit liberation that is. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Libfems never stop to think about why women are structurally oppressed.

No, not one of us could have cracked that mystery.

Strange that you consider hating on libfems a feminist choice... Or is feminism for all women, except the ones you don't like?

thebewilderness · 03/09/2018 23:00

We are not allowed to do what MNHQ call troll hunt. So saying a person is an obvious MRA troll will get you deleted and possibly a strike.

Failure to respond is assumed to be acquiescence.
So! What we have left is recipe sharing to signal that we do not think the OP is posting in good faith.
It happens most often on the weekend or at midnight when the fewest number of mods are on duty.

powershowerforanhour · 03/09/2018 23:49

The difference between the recipes and school-bully-clique in jokes is that the recipe one is very easy to spot, even for somebody slow on the uptake like me, unchanging and you can join in if you want. Whereas if you were a victim at school, worked out the in joke and tried to join in with it, you'd be shot down with withering looks and "What are you on about?" Or you can just ask the very straightforward question that the OP asked and be told "yes you are right, it is an antitrolling mechanism" and nobody is going to be nudging each other and sniggering at you.

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 04/09/2018 00:06

I like the irony of the recipes too. Y'know - given that we're braburning harridans? But yeah I agree, it's just a quirk of the board. And we were all newbies once and we all didn't know about naice ham at some point. That's the Internet innit?

terryleather · 04/09/2018 00:17

I still don't really understand the naice ham thing but I have been turned to the heady delights of Zoflora, of which I knew nothing until I came here...thread upon thread about fragranced disinfectant, who knew?

I have succumbed and now have my very own collection like a proper MNer should.

Pom Bears on the other hand, suck.

pombear · 04/09/2018 00:22

Terry ouch!

terryleather · 04/09/2018 00:26

Soz pombear! Blush

Ereshkigal · 04/09/2018 00:34

What's the liberation of women if we're only free to do what we're told?

Who said that? Or do you think that no choices, however harmful to others, should ever be challenged?

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 04/09/2018 00:43

What's the liberation of women if we're only free to do what we're told?

This is the old feminine socialisation thing again. Women having opinions and expressing them forthrightly are being "bossy"

Turph · 04/09/2018 01:20

I enjoyed this thread, I laughed in many parts and then came across this
I cannot accept that any person is actually 'trans', because I have concluded that it is physically impossible for a person to be physically one sex yet psychologically the other. And this is because I can see that there is a universal, immutable and unambiguous physical reproductive sex, yet there is not the same thing psychologically. There IS no universal psychological way to be female. The most persuasive person in the world could not convince me that such a thing as an innate female psychology existed and was as universal to the female sex as say XX chromosomes, if they had no evidence to support that position. And I cannot give credence to a logical fallacy, no matter who defends it. A person cannot be what they wish to be purely by declaring it so.
Barracker is spot on and this could easily be a mantra.

I feel bad for newbies (I am one, but not to boards in general) but I also feel they should spend time elsewhere, where moving up the ranks from newbie takes serious work! This place has been great, thanks for having me, dinner was lovely, thank you

Gncq · 04/09/2018 08:11

I thought under talk guidelines that deliberately derailing a thread was not permitted.
I'm sure trolls who deliberately derail with whataboutery have been banned before...

AssassinatedBeauty · 04/09/2018 08:35

Then report any posters who you feel are breaking talk guidelines, should it be bothering you that this is happening.

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