Dr Adrian Harrop thread the third, yes we've edited the title*...

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Cross over from the Green Party terf blocker stuff.

Harrop and his merry band of TRAs are trying to convince Caroline Lucas that it's all the fault of evil terfs really.

So there's Harrop, known harrasser of gender critical women, Terf Blocker, known for lass blocking and reporting of GC women, and LisaQuestions who identified David Challenor's victim

Also, how do they get to treat U.K. residents, including minors, from over here ?

Boots the Chemist had to eventually give up on breaking into the pharmacy market over here. Can't even buy online from them at all now. Even before that products were seriously restricted. It's not like it has ever seemed like a free for all.

Or can I just shop for a doctor all over the EU until some Quack will diagnose online, and prescribe me what I fancy ramming down my child's throat ?

There was some suggestion that private 'specialists' such as GenderGP might advise GPs so they could then prescribe 'bridging prescriptions' as a solution to the long waits for NHS GIDs etc

It may also be that whilst the registration / 'head office' moves to another country, some services remain in the UK?

There's comment about registration issues etc on the GenderGP site queries page:

"Why aren't you registered with the CQC?
As my services are currently provided from mob home in Wales, the CQC registration does not cover this area. I have been told by the CQC that my service does not need to be registered.

"What about registration with the Health Inspectorate Wales?
GenderGP started as a simple WordPress blog website for advice for patients and doctors. It very quickly grew as the demand rose and I have now given advice to thousands of people. I first applied for HIW registration in October 2016 but they have still not completed their registration processes.

Recently they have told me that I should no longer provide services and that they are mindful to not approve my application.

As there are a large number of patients relying on my care who can’t get the help they need from anywhere else, and because there is a high incidence of self harm and suicide in this patient group, I am going to transfer the hub of my service to my other residence in Malaga, Spain so that I can continue providing care while the regulatory processes are being sorted out."

Can healthcare be delivered online?
As part of the NHS ‘Five Year Plan’ there are great development plans for using technology to enhance the provision of safer, more accessible healthcare. In the future, this will be mainstream.

www.england.nhs.uk/five-year-forward-view/next-steps-on-the-nhs-five-year-forward-view/harnessing-technology-and-innovation/

gendergp.co.uk/queries/

I think I am being dim and missing something. How does moving the hub to Spain resolve the issue of being told not to provide specific "services" to U.K. residents ?

Are doctors based in the EU exempt from their own national (you are subject to relevant national laws even if only visitor/resident as a professional ) and EU regs when diagnosing and prescribing (including for for minors) remotely/via private health tourism ?

Is there a loop hole ?

Or is person talking out of arse by wafting Spain around as a solution ?

I'm not sure Cesira but this seems the key explanation:

"Recently they have told me that I should no longer provide services and that they are mindful to not approve my application.

As there are a large number of patients relying on my care who can’t get the help they need from anywhere else, and because there is a high incidence of self harm and suicide in this patient group, I am going to transfer the hub of my service to my other residence in Malaga, Spain so that I can continue providing care while the regulatory processes are being sorted out."

There was though a recent BBC Panorama program which suggested the beginnings of a crackdown on some aspects of online medical services.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-45084555

So trying to escape jurisdiction over one's own licence to practice medicine, and maybe fly under the radar ?

Crack down can't happen fast enough if the above is the state of play.

So trying to escape jurisdiction over one's own licence to practice medicine, and maybe fly under the radar ?

With the apparent justification,

"As there are a large number of patients relying on my care who can’t get the help they need from anywhere else, and because there is a high incidence of self harm and suicide in this patient group"

I don't think he cares about his career. Its became quite clear recently that what hes aiming for is to be a media personality of sorts..SJW, protector of the oppressed, etc. Could maybe have worked, if he could control his rampant misogyny.

That or hes wanting to set himself up as some kind of trans doctor. A Webberly type, who will prescribe hormones at the drop of a hat.

I think his aim is to become the go to British Dr for private “trans” treatments. He knows he will make a fortune just prescribing drugs.

OMG that screenshot of Natacha and Heather et al talking about editing the wiki feminism pages. Fucking hell.

I know

Well if his plan is a career handing out drugs to kids, to have non gender stereotype confirming kids sterilised, for his own benefit, whether that is financial or as a smokescreen for his own sexual interests. Then he needs to be carefully watched, and every thing he does which would make the GMC question his fitness to be in this position of power, reported.

Dr Harrop might have questionable ideas about safeguarding, and his entitlement to opt out of fit and proper behaviour. However thankfully his regulators and insurers aren't as interested in protecting him as they are their own position.

Or is person talking out of arse by wafting Spain around as a solution

I know you can get HRT OTC in Spain. Definitely Oestrogel. Not sure this extends to testosterone though.

I know you can get HRT OTC in Spain. Definitely Oestrogel. Not sure this extends to testosterone though.

But can a doctor based in Spain remotely diagnose and prescribe to a British resident ?

I'm wondering if the plan is to involve some kind of "holiday" for minors in Spain and going home loaded up with drugs prescribed and bought in Spain. Not sure how British customs would deal with that. If they even discovered a haul.

Just a gut rumbling, but Wakefield is starting to look like a blueprint for self interested doctors with a personal theory and an eye on the prize, rather than a one off.

Could it be something to do with buying the drugs to be prescribed?

I expect if a doctor is diagnosing over the internet, it does not matter where they are based.

Melamin

Are there no nation specific controls over medics ? So if qualified in Britian, the relevant British body can revoke your licence to practise ?

And would diagnosing/prescribing/supplying prescription drugs over t'internet hit the bar where a case to assess a doctor for being struck off would happened ?

I have no idea how regulation of medics varies from country to country, and the EU etc, but here are many loopholes.

Posted on another thread, after AH's dissemination by implication of that 'razor blades under GC stickers' report (nicely called out by @lecanardnoir ), BTP Manchester have posted: Sticker claims - Manchester Oxford Road

media.btp.police.uk/r/15860/sticker_claims_-manchester_oxford_road

British Transport Police (BTP) were made aware of a tweet – dated 5 September – stating that stickers, with razor blades behind them, were put up in the toilets of Manchester Oxford Road train station.

Officers have attended the station to investigate this claim and have confirmed there is no evidence of this.

BTP has a tried and tested system in place for dealing with hoaxes designed to cause minimum disruption whilst ensuring the safety of members of the public and rail staff.

Nevertheless, hoaxers waste considerable police time and divert our much-needed resources from other duties. We will continue to monitor the situation and will take further action should this malicious activity continue.

One wonders if AH is willing to make a donation to a relevant organisation for passing this hoax on with his weasel words. And leverage his platform to RT BTP Manchester's findings. Maybe have a tactful word with the originator of the hoax?

And, while he is at it, I wonder if AH might also retract his RT of another weasel-worded tweet:

Transgender Trend are taking their lead from radical transphobes who have been flyposting penis-shaped stickers in public spaces (some of which have been claimed to hide razor blades)!!!

REMEMBER this is trans CHILDREN they are trying to attack!!!

twitter.com/mimmymum/status/1038918428101357568

We will continue to monitor the situation and will take further action should this malicious activity continue.

Ooh I like that the statement confirms that it was just malicious lies.

I bet TRAs continue to parrot the lie though and refuse to acknowledge that there is no evidence whatsoever (which there wouldn't be, as everyone on here already knew the story was bollocks)

My contact lens supplier moved offshore a few years ago. I forget what regulations they were getting around now...

Non UK based contact lens suppliers are outside the control of the General Optical Council and so can supply CL without a valid prescription/specification. Also a VAT saving.

I thought it was something like that (not needing a prescription) but I googled and they seem to have moved back again now!

Hmmm... he reposted that the razor blade/ sticker thing was a hoax... I wonder if he was threatened with legal action again?