Buck Angel - a story of the dangers of trans medication

[VickyEadie]

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Interesting (and awful) on the effects of prolonged testosterone on a body that retains a uterus, vagina, etc.

It does highlight the need for good health care for transmen. But also responsibility for one's own wellbeing.

Astonishing how most of the blame is put on the medical professionals for not having knowledge of a situation they presumably wouldn’t have encountered before/would not be in textbooks etc., even after acknowledging at the start they were in effect a guinea pig and signing a disclaimer.

This article really infuriates me. Buck throws physicians under the bus after clearly stating an awareness that long-term testosterone use in a female was not medically understood. If a person voluntarily chooses to be a living medical experiment, then her or she must be willing to accept the consequences that might follow.

Furthermore, Buck chooses not to mention that most health professionals who specialize in transgender care recommend a hysterectomy and oophorectomy after about five years on testosterone, specifically for this reason. Instead, Buck is promoting a product to sell...suspicious.

No, most physicians are not educated in "trans health," because until recently, they constituted a very, very small percentage of the population. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect them to seek out specialists. Also, despite my concerns about the social and cultural consequences of the trans movement, I absolutely support more research into the use of cross sex hormones. We MUST have a better sense of the lifelong risks before recommending this "treatment" to children and adolescents with gender dysphoria.

I think Buck Angel has a right to be annoyed if presenting with lower abdominal/pelvic pain and just having repeated pap smears without a full pelvic examination to check the state of the ovaries etc. Unless the gynaecologist stated upfront that ordinarily there would be a pelvic exam but it would be infeasible to check the ovaries etc. because of the anticipated atrophy. In which case, I don't understand why a scan wasn't ordered to investigate the pain.

I am confused by the comment "he atrophy fused my uterus and my cervix together" as I thought that the cervix was part of the uterus.

Not having abdominal pain properly investigated is completely normal for women. I’ve talked to so many women who have had their concerns dismissed. My personal worst was when the gynecologist told me I needed to stop complaining about my pain or no man was ever going to want me.

Buck Angel got treated exactly like other people who share that anatomy.

Purple Yes that is true

Buck Angel got treated exactly like other people who share that anatomy.

Yep. My dysmenorrhoea was waved away by a succession of (male) GPs for 20 years. The first woman GP I was able to take it to referred me to a consultant and it was swiftly and easily dealt with.

Yes agree Purple

Interesting. I don't think this is the only risk of long term testosterone therapy either.

I'm confused - wouldn't an oestrogen cream counter the effects of the testosterone in other ways? Diminishing the effectiveness of the testosterone and leading to the return of unwanted, female features?

I'd forgotten that Buck is an "adult film maker". Funny just how many prominent TRAs are involved in stuff like that, hey

Bloody help that is an eye opener.

Despite Buck's reckless waving of rights and use of an experimental drug I can still see why he is upset.

I do think that the full extent of possible implications of trans medication is not understood.

I think those happily talking about unicorns and rainbows should read this chilling account.

bloody hell

Also what isn't mentioned here is the fact that trans men look incredibly old for their age. Bald and wrinkled in mid forties. I thought buck angel was about 60 when I saw a recent photo then Googled and is only 46.

FFS if you’re going to voluntarily administer an unnatural substance into your body for years, of course it’s going to do severe damage. There’s a total lack of taking responsibility in that article and personally I have zero sympathy with them.

Human beings cannot change sex.

I'd forgotten that Buck is an "adult film maker". Funny just how many prominent TRAs are involved in stuff like that, hey
This is in America, remember. No free health care, so many trans people have to turn to prostitution and porn to pay for their surgery and medications and then become trapped in that way of life.
However, that's rather less of an exuse for Buck. Pre-transition, he was a georgous, androgynous young woman with a successful career in modelling ahead of her (his modelling photos from that time are stunning). But already unhappy, he was drawn into drugs and porn films, then decided he wanted to be a man; he then discovered that being a transman with intact female genitalia paid extremely well in the porn industry. As I see it, he had chances to get out, but didn't take them.
As others have said, he looks incredibly aged - I really did think he was in his 60s when I first saw his photos. But he's now at least doing some good in speaking out.

This is probably revealing the limits of my social knowledge, but what sort of crowd does Buck Angel appeal to? Gay men?

This all leads to the question of what testosterone does to a female’s eggs. Given the number of transmen who are having babies, is there any research into the effect of much elevated levels of testosterone on the eggs which are in the female’s body? Many people think that a new egg is created each month but all a woman’s eggs are created whilst she herself is still in her mother’s womb. So even if a transman stops taking testosterone in order to have a baby, the egg will still have been subjected to levels of testosterone which are not normal for a female. So any baby is an experiment in order to satisfy a transman’s vanity.

Advertising his own product and really? One handed reads? Feminist erotica? But hey! Yall got treated like a girl dont like it? neither do we

It's a double whammy, isn't it?

Transman's egg may have been affected by testosterone (unless it was harvested before transition) so there are unknown/unknowable effects on the embryo that develops from that egg

But also

If that embryo is female, her eggs are developing while she is in the womb and they may also be affected by the testosterone in the transman's body

This is probably revealing the limits of my social knowledge, but what sort of crowd does Buck Angel appeal to? Gay men?

Thank you Goosefoot for so delicately asking the question I have been burning to ask.
Revealing my own limits when I say it's a mystery. Maybe we should look at some of the films he has starred in but then again, some things are best left to the imagination.

He does seem to pass well so I would think some gay men, if they don't know who he is, could be in for a surprise.

GaspOde This will take a generation to work its way into the annals of medical scandals but I'm sure none of this can be good for babies.

Diethylstilbestrol is a good example.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diethylstilbestrol

I think there are fetishists for a body that is both male and female out there.

I did recently follow a conversation Buck was having with another trans identified porn worker and the work that person was frantically begging people to pay for on twitter was a description of horrendous physical self abuse.

It leaves me feeling a bit deadned about humanity to see this public masochism and sadism being sold in public, reachable in a few clicks on twitter.

It no longer surprises me that we have an epidemic of anxiety in young people when this level of debasement of the self is out there to consume as any other product or service.
I realise the sex drive in humans is powerful but it really has no limits when it has no limits.