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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jeremy Corbyn Facing Backlash Re. Self Id

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WarmWishes · 30/08/2018 11:04

https://m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/amp/entry/jeremy-corbyn-facing-backlash-over-policy-on-trans-womenukk5b851a9de4b0162f471c3a85/?twitterrimpression=true

Amy Brookes has tabled a motion for the women's labour conference.

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Ereshkigal · 30/08/2018 16:35

Worth pointing out that as of the time of writing, Lily M is the only trans Woman’s Officer in Labour, and every CLP has a WO

Not Peto too?

Ereshkigal · 30/08/2018 16:41

Mind you, I still have money on LM being a kind of bomb that goes off and takes half of Labour with her long, long before the next GE.

I wouldn't bet against you!

Charliethefeminist · 30/08/2018 16:43

Peto is trans officer I thought
Good Post cat

ToeToToe · 30/08/2018 16:46

Peto is Women's Officer - recently voted in.

Charliethefeminist · 30/08/2018 16:50

My bad.

BettyDuMonde · 30/08/2018 17:23

Sorry - that’s new info for me! Still, there should be as many WO as there are constituencies, so we’re looking at two TW out of 650. Each branch can theoretically have a WO but it’s likely only the biggest branches do (plus a few smaller branches with particularly committed WR’s activists living in them. Might see if I can make the position exist at our next AGM).

(These positions are elected btw, but unpaid, and the elections are decided purely on how many members turn up for the vote. Women, of course, find it harder to attend political meetings because they usually happen on weekday evenings and women are statistically more likely to be child wrangling or caring for elderly relatives in their ‘free’ time).

Lily M’s position will be voted on again at the next AGM for LM’s CLP, perhaps even sooner, depending on whether LM decides to make LM’s new student residence LM’s main address or not.

For the record, I absolutely believe transpeople have the right to political representation, and I would support any motions/campaigns that formalised that within the party (ie, having seperate trans officers at CLP level rather than being lumped in with LGB officers, after all, the issues are not the same) I just don’t think that the political issues that affect women-as-an-oppressed-class are the same ones that Transwomen face. In addition, adding TW to women-only shortlists does nothing for trans representation in parliament overall (because transmen and non-binary people are excluded).

ZuttZeVootEeVro · 30/08/2018 17:30

two TW out of 650

When does it become a problem, 10/650, 100, 300, 500?

And what do we do when it gets to a problem?

carceralfeminist · 30/08/2018 17:43

For the record, I absolutely believe transpeople have the right to political representation, and I would support any motions/campaigns that formalised that within the party (ie, having seperate trans officers at CLP level rather than being lumped in with LGB officers, after all, the issues are not the same) I just don’t think that the political issues that affect women-as-an-oppressed-class are the same ones that Transwomen face. In addition, adding TW to women-only shortlists does nothing for trans representation in parliament overall (because transmen and non-binary people are excluded).

This. Exactly this.

BettyDuMonde · 30/08/2018 18:24

Zutt - personally I think two is already problematic and now is definitely the time for action (what with conference season and the end of the GRA consultation just around the corner).

My main reason for pointing out that we’re currently at 2/650 is that anyone attempting to contact their local Labour WO who isn’t in those 2 CLP’s will be attempting to contact a biological woman (one is is hopefully, well aware of the issues women face politically).

We are not yet past the point of no return!

ToeToToe · 30/08/2018 18:26

I personally don't think transwomen should be taking any places in politics that have been specifically set aside for women, such as AWS, as women are still so underrepresented. I have no problem with transwomen in politics per se, obviously, but I don't believe transwomen are women, and I don't think women should be pushed aside.

BraveAndStunning · 30/08/2018 18:29

Ahhhh, thanks Toe. That wouls explain LM's change of twitter bio to being the first (take note: Peto) Women's Officer

Catmint · 30/08/2018 20:26

Lily M thinks that Amy Brookes is wrong, so I wrote to Amy this afternoon thanking her for doing this and what it means to me that she us speaking up for women.

I'm not a resident local to Rotherham so I also copied in my local labour candidate. I explained that I'm unable to vote Labour in the current circumstances.

Got a reply back soon after, thanking me for the support.

Amy is easily contactable - would it be worth more of us expressing support?

carceralfeminist · 30/08/2018 20:30

That's a great idea. Thanks.

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