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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

"Woman" loses NASA internship....

78 replies

busyboysmum · 23/08/2018 14:30

www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6090055/Suck-d-k-b-s-Woman-loses-NASA-internship-following-profanity-laden-tweet.html?login

I get cross at these stories as this is clearly a TW not a woman and people like this are giving women a bad name.

So many comments under the article saying how rude women are getting nowadays. Thinking this is a biological woman. I cannot imagine any biological woman getting accepted onto a NASA internship and behaving like this.

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busyboysmum · 23/08/2018 23:21

@Cwenthryth I agree they can do all these things.

I object to them being described as a woman however as they are not one.

What I want to happen is for there to be a clear way females are distinguished from males in crime statistics, in reporting such as this. It used to be "women" and "men". At the moment these words have lost all meaning.

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Charliethefeminist · 24/08/2018 03:17

It's so obvious the Space Council guy is only trying to help now he knows there's a Y chromosome involved. Team Y.

Cwenthryth · 24/08/2018 03:26

What I want to happen is for there to be a clear way females are distinguished from males in crime statistics, in reporting such as this.

This isn’t crime statistics though? This is just lazy tabloid click bait.

Spikypants · 24/08/2018 04:01

I saw this on Twitter. Naomi is trans. So no surprise that Naomi is exhibiting stereotypical male behaviour.

SallyVating · 24/08/2018 05:04

I'm.idenifying as the first budgie to have a Nasa membership

TransplantsArePlants · 24/08/2018 07:28

I cannot think how no-ironic it is that NAS rejected a very early crop of actual women for astronaut training, back in the 1960s when they found out their screening tests had revealed women to be well-suited to space flight. That just didn't sit well with them...

Link below. Sorry it's the Guardian Wink

NASA rejects women in the 1960s

TransplantsArePlants · 24/08/2018 07:30

Also, see the film Hidden Figures, which detailed the difficulties African American actual women had in NASA, and how important their role was in the Space Race

TinyRick · 24/08/2018 08:37

Just had look at some of the newest comments and couple have said that they are 'definitely a girl as all the news outlets have confirmed that they are female'.

The person is definitely trans.

Transwoman are female now, apparently.

I also like how I am meant to automatically respect this person because of their identity yet they showed absolutely zero respect to Homer Hickman.

TinyRick · 24/08/2018 08:37

*Transwomen

TinyRick · 24/08/2018 08:38

*Hickam

Damn phone

Cwenthryth · 24/08/2018 09:12

I am meant to automatically respect this person because of their identity

Where do you get that from, Tiny? I mean, I believe that everyone is deserving of basic respect until they prove otherwise (ie their actions lose your respect), but why ‘because of their identity’? Does that imply that some identities are more deserving of respect than others? Seems an odd thing to base respect on (I know you didn’t say it, but wondering where the idea has come from).

AsAProfessionalFekko · 24/08/2018 09:13

Who doesn't read up about a new employer or somewhere they are applying to?

Id think it was a Big Deal working for NASA and hope that theyd choose people who weren't absolute numpties.

AsAProfessionalFekko · 24/08/2018 09:22

And I tend to find that people who bang on about respect tend to be the least respectful people who dont realise that it goes both ways.

IncrediblySturdyPyjamas · 24/08/2018 09:23

It's so obvious the Space Council guy is only trying to help now he knows there's a Y chromosome involved. Team Y.

Yes once he realised it was a bloke, he couldn't tell her off and then made sure he got his space back.

Textbook.

AsAProfessionalFekko · 24/08/2018 09:26

Or maybe he is a nice guy. Or maybe he knows there will be a mad pile on if he didn't (and the inevitable death threats). What was the old film again where the evil towns children could read adults minds so all the adults tried really hard to keep them happy?

IncrediblySturdyPyjamas · 24/08/2018 09:31

Or maybe he is a nice guy

When he thought it was a woman, not so nice tho?

Haworthia · 24/08/2018 09:38

The tweet (“language”) did have a very mansplain-y air about it, didn’t it? Definitely wouldn’t have happened if he’d known he was talking to a fellow Y chromosome.

Juells · 24/08/2018 09:41

Finger-wagging when he thought it was a woman. Falling over himself to make up for it when he realised there was a Y chromosome.

StealthPolarBear · 24/08/2018 09:58

Interesting. I assumed he was happy for the person to receive his mild rebuke but not to lose their job. But you could be right, I don't know any more.

AsAProfessionalFekko · 24/08/2018 10:06

I might have tweeted the same thing though if I thought a 'youngster' was potentially buggering up their prospects in my workplace though.

TinyRick · 24/08/2018 10:12

Cwenthryth

I see it all the time...

"Respect Transwomen/girls"

"I think that Transpeople all deserve respect"

"Transpeople deserve our respect"

I'm not going to respect some 20 year old furry trans 'girl' that behaves like an incel just because they identify as Trans (as an example).

Cwenthryth · 24/08/2018 11:28

Oh, ok. I thought you meant it had been specifically said in this case. Those statements sound fine, by the way - they’re not saying trans people deserve respect because they are trans which is what you first said. Everyone should be respected/deserves respect, until their actions lose that respect.

TheCountryGirl · 24/08/2018 12:37

Well Juells it just goes to prove no one believes these trans males are women.

Charliethefeminist · 24/08/2018 13:01

Yep juells

Juells · 24/08/2018 13:08

no one believes these trans males are women.

Except all the commenters underneath the article crowing about how she lost her job because of her potty mouth!

Honestly, who'd want someone like that in an organisation though? First response to getting an internship being to swear about it on twitter, then swear even more when someone remarks on it? Didn't have the gumption to hover over the name of the person they were swearing at, to see who he might be...

I see on twitter that people are saying that person is a furry. Had never heard of such a thing before this morning, now this is the second mention (first was in the deleted AC thread).

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