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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

'Transwoman' blazes a trail across British Columbia to force salons to give 'Brazillian' wax, filing human rights complaints against 15 separate salons

81 replies

CaitlynsCat · 23/08/2018 06:47

nationalpost.com/news/canada/not-for-men-sorry-transgender-woman-files-human-rights-complaint-after-being-denied-brazilian-wax

The facts appear to be:

  • the complainant is accused of harassing salon workers
  • the complainant is anonymous even while those at the salon are not
  • the complainant used a male name but claimed to have 'transitioned', whatever the fuck that means
  • the service is described as a 'Manzillian', presumably this means cock & balls, though this is not clear

Obviously in addition to the right of salon workers not to be forced to wax cocks, they would likely not be trained in dick waxing, as it's a completely different procedure

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TerfAndSerf · 23/08/2018 06:52

If any transwoman wants to risk having the skin ripped off her scrotum, by all means.....

CaitlynsCat · 23/08/2018 06:57

I don't think that any waxing took place. It was literally a case of 'Hello my name is Brian, I am a woman, I want a Brazillian', then wait for the reaction, if the reaction was 'sure thing', then they would say 'Sorry I changed my mind', and if it was 'fuck off', then they would try to ruin their day.

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AngryAttackKittens · 23/08/2018 07:01

What part of "being trained on how to wax a vulva does not mean that a person knows how to safely wax balls" does this person not understand?

I feel like we need a term for this sort of specific fixated one-issue querulous complainer. Like "vexatious lawsuits", but more specific.

TransplantsArePlants · 23/08/2018 07:13

Do they not value their balls more than to have some amateur near them? Or actually, is that what they really want. Thirdhole

TransplantsArePlants · 23/08/2018 07:13
  • Thirdhole = asshole
FlippinFumin · 23/08/2018 07:29

This is exactly the sort of dickhead the proposed changes to the GRA will fill with glee.

Again, it is always a case of 'it will never happen', and then it happens, and then worse things happen. This is the silly tip of an enormous iceberg, dickhead men waiting for a chance to humiliate women any way they can.

SturdyEarmuffs · 23/08/2018 07:33

TELI would be all over this here, if GRA reform goes through. They are set up to look for possible litigation opportunities.

This shows up the lunacy of the Canada situation & hopefully serves as a warning here what this could lead to. madness.

stillathing · 23/08/2018 07:36

So. Absolutely indistinguishable in action from a men's rights activist?

FanWithoutAGuard · 23/08/2018 07:58

Thirdhole = asshole

I like it - woman-centric, therefore inaccurate for 50% of the population which we can hand wave/ignore just like the ridiculous 'front hole' we are being asked to consider using for our vaginas.

KatVonSweet · 23/08/2018 08:07

So brave and stunning.

If a salon doesn't offer this service it doesn't offer the service. Waxing Bryans balls surely needs training? If it's not a service they offer then how dare this person harass them.

This is insanity.

ChattyLion · 23/08/2018 08:15

Is this complainant saying it’s illegal in canada to specialise in women’s cosmetic/personal services AND not to have fully trained for qualifications in every aspects of Male cosmetic/personal services under self ID? Hmm

I can’t see small business owners being able to fund the full ramifications of legal gender self ID.

ZuttZeVootEeVro · 23/08/2018 08:25

This lawsuit may be a good thing. It should be obvious to everyone that the skills and techniques needed to wax men and women would be different, and staff may not be trained or want to perform the procedure on both men and women.

It highlights that we need words, particularly for women and girls, that everyone understands that mean something. There are lots of male transpeople that use the words woman, girl, female, vagina and vulva to describe themselves and their body. This leaves women and business no words to describe themselves and the services they perform that are for women's bodies.

Ereshkigal · 23/08/2018 08:36

This lawsuit may be a good thing

I agree.

IvyFluids · 23/08/2018 08:36

Transplants I thought the third hole comment was on purpose Grin Have you seen the new thing where you cant event say vulva/vagina anymore in case it offends someone? You have to say front hole now.

NameChangedAgain18 · 23/08/2018 08:40

I think it’s telling that the second individual mentioned in the article could have waited for a trained member of staff to wax their cock and balls, but wanted a Muslim woman to be forced to do it.

TransplantsArePlants · 23/08/2018 08:52

Ivy

Yes, it was a parody of the terrible 'front hole' nonsense

LangCleg · 23/08/2018 09:02

This one is going into my consultation response.

FanWithoutAGuard · 23/08/2018 09:14

And this is the difference between 'true trans' and TRAs right? Some people want a GRC so they can just live as best they can, with a minimum of hassle to themselves. TRAs seem to want it so they can demand things, so they can make people treat them as women on pain of prosecution.

The first is accommodation, the second is a complete takeover.

Charliethefeminist · 23/08/2018 09:18

'True trans' in the sense of wanting to crack on with a quiet life and make piece with your dysphoria, yes, I would say there are. True trans as in, really having a woman's brain inside a man's body? No, completely impossible.

Charliethefeminist · 23/08/2018 09:19

Make peace ✌️

AgonyBeetle · 23/08/2018 09:20

Presumably this individual would also have been quick to sue if their cock and balls had been injured in the course of being waxed by someone who was not trained for the job.

Can’t win with these types, really. Hmm

Charliethefeminist · 23/08/2018 09:21

Is this a genuine attempt to shut down businesses that cater for women - I really think it is a malicious, calculated and deadly serious effort to remove places in public life where women gather without men.

AgonyBeetle · 23/08/2018 09:26

In fact it really highlights the first law of misogyny to the max:

'Women saying no to men for any reason, including for the prevention of potential physical injury to the man, is a hate crime.'

There are not enough [eyeroll] emoticons in the world for this.

ChattyLion · 23/08/2018 09:33

Any legal ‘requirement’ for female or male workers to perform intimate cosmetic or personal care on male clients’ genitalia is wrong.

It will drive people out of their jobs who can’t accept that they have to do this.

Equally as a female customer in regards to your own genitalia, you should ALWAYS be able to request a woman and NEVER pressured or forced to accept a man performing any kind of intimate personal care, beauty services (same goes for health care)

KittyKlaws · 23/08/2018 09:36

But this never happens ... right?

Right?