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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Magdalen Berns

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Sweetsongbird1 · 12/08/2018 10:04

linky

Had a chuckle at this this morning

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ShotsFired · 17/08/2018 14:53

What a strange breathy pretend voice that "you ain't my muvver!" Zoe Slater lass from Eastenders has in that video Grin

TransplantsArePlants · 17/08/2018 15:21

I couldn't give a fig for how much 'effort' a trans person makes - it still doesn't change their sex. A transwoman is still an male adult human, no matter how much makeup they wear, how much 'cleavage' they show, how much they simper and pout, how many hormones they've taken or surgeries they've had. I'm sure you know the correct noun for male adult human

Yes. I agree with that.
Essentially Meyers is trying to suggest that to be a woman you have to make an effort to be a women. I don't make the kind of flicky-haired, wide-eyed-breathy-voiced effort to be a woman and yet I am one.

99point9FahrenheitDegrees · 18/08/2018 10:09

Well. As a white Sowf Effrican, I thought that was hilarious. And MB's point was exactly that she was being as much of a Saffa as TM is being a woman - by performing a stereotype. Also, many of us are ignorant loudmoufs, so fair point.

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 18/08/2018 10:29

I took MBs pisstaking was largely rooted in the fact that Meyers is clearly wealthy and has a lot of money to spend on 'feminine' style, beauty treatments and shows disdain for those who can't afford it (perhaps even XX women?). As though 'being a woman' is only open to wealthy people who can afford all of the expensive treatments and those males who don't have the money to devote to 'passing' don't deserve to be in the 'woman' club. Basically Meyer is actually a stuck up classist snob.

The SA connection is that a lot of white South Africans still benefit from the embedded inequality of apartheid. Today the disdain white South Africans show towards Black South Africans is ridden with class snobbery and not just racism. BSAs are the demonised working class, a bit like calling the working class 'chavs' in the UK.

I don't think it came across that well but I think MB was really incensed by Meyers arrogant privilege.

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 18/08/2018 10:30

99point9FahrenheitDegrees I hope my post don't offend you.

99point9FahrenheitDegrees · 18/08/2018 12:47

Totally not offended. I agree entirely. It's intersectional privilege!

woman11017 · 19/08/2018 21:01

She's just posted this on her health progress since last year. What a Star she is.
twitter.com/MagdalenBerns/status/1031267709168836608

Datun · 19/08/2018 21:30

Magdalen Berns is a committed feminist. A strong woman. And a one off.

She is young. Far too young to have suffered so much bad health. But she has an impressive, comforting, burning anger which I utterly relate to.

Noqont · 20/08/2018 14:22

99point9FahrenheitDegrees
Also, many of us are ignorant loudmoufs, so fair point.

There's nothing like a bit of self deprecating humour Grin Flowers

99point9FahrenheitDegrees · 21/08/2018 10:48

I don't know if that's the result of my proud colonial heritage, or the influence of such wonderful women as Tannie Evita at impressionable times in my life. I have been thinking a lot lately about what Evita Bezuidenhout would say about all this. She seems like an apt person to bring up at this particular intersection of privilege!

www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/04/south-africa-racist-evita-bezuidenhout

mobile.twitter.com/tannieevita?lang=en

TriptychTwins · 21/08/2018 13:04

I may not agree with everything that Magdalen has said, but I do remember the enormous sense of relief I felt the first time I saw one of her videos.

She put into words the sense of unease I'd had for quite some time about the way the debate around the GRA was going, and the way that GC women were being silenced. I'll always be grateful to her for that.

Love her or hate her (personally I love her), she keeps the debate going, keeps it in sight, and does so with humour and eloquence. We'll always need people like her.

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