Why do TRAs keep using black women when defending TWAW?

[ScienceIsTruth]

I saw this tweet the other day, and it never fails to shock me when they keep using this argument.

They've been asked not to, and been told why it's offensive, so why do they persist?

Do they honestly think it will endear others to their cause?

I really don't get how they even thought it made sense, or was relevant. To me it makes no sense at all as the 2 subjects have absolutely nothing in common.

They also don't seem to be worried about it alienating people.

It's a bit like saying seahorses are the same as black horses, when they're so obviously not.

In a nutshell: different century, exact same shit.

anyone who believes trans women are a type of woman will see any exclusion of them as equivalent to racism, and given that starting position, I can’t make a logical argument for why it is not.

Silence, the argument you quote relies on believing TWAW, without any evidence to back this extraordinary claim. You presumably wouldn’t believe me if I said I was a zebra. That’s because i couldn’t provide any evidence that i was a zebra. Why does TWAW need no evidence to back it?

Thinking - I was debating with someone who believes TWAW (or perhaps that they’re physically men but mentally women, the position changed a bit as we talked). I was trying to work out a counter to their argument that excluding trans women was equivalent to racism. What this thread has helped me do is work through exactly why I couldn’t do that - and it’s because our starting assumptions are fundamentally different.

I understand now that their view was that my starting assumption was wrong - in exactly the same way that racism is wrong, and based upon a mixture of unwarranted fear, prejudice and a wish to protect status. It was really confusing to argue, because I was dealing with ‘well they’re a type of woman’ and ‘you shouldn’t exclude people just because they’re different to you’ and ‘wrong side of history’ and ‘be kind’ and ‘no-one would pretend to be a trans woman as they’re so persecuted’ and ‘anyway separate sex facilities are old-fashioned and unnecessary nowadays, and I’m fine with them’. So I had real trouble working out why we just kept talking at cross purposes, until this thread helped me unpick it. So thank you!