Any Questions - Germaine Greer

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Just covering a self-Id question.

She didn't pull any punches and she got a huge round of applause!

It was brilliant! She didn't have enough time though and no chance for comeback to the lack of connection with gay marriage (which didn't occur at the expense of heterosexual marriages).

Any Answers is up next...

Just heard her. She was fab.

It’s a shame the discussion couldn’t have been longer. No one mentioned the effects self id will have on Women.

What was this on?

BBC Radio
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bclyj1

Anyone going to phone in to Any Answers then?

Sorry, at 36 minutes in.

The dancing round the subject by others is pathetic.

Interesting that the loudest applause are for Germaine.

Just popping it on now.

Will try to catch at lunchtime tomorrow

“I believe that sex is real”

A pretty good starting point.

Greer was fantastic. Especially the Cocker spaniel line.

After that I got as far as pathetic Barry Gardiner wittering about how “talking about cocker spaniels trivialises this” and switched off.

Germaine sodding Greer pulls no punches.

What a load of wet lettuces the others were, scared to tackle the issue head on.

Nobody is disputing live and let live, muppets. Until it eradicates the rights of girls and women and puts their safey at risk. That part was conveniently missed out.

I've heard her talk of offending and being offended before. It's a strong closer.

I wonder if she's a Goldie Lookin' Chain fan. Wasn't "Your mother's got a....cocker spaniel" in the radio edit of that song?

GG didn't have the space to comment properly on this question and speaking directly got her a mealy-mouthed "bigot" criticism dressed up in more polite language.

The comments by the other panel members, Priti Patel and Barry Gardiner, were interesting, particularly the shallowness of their understanding. The people put forward by their political parties for these panels tend to be "strong" politicians supposedly having a decent grasp of issues. It makes me realise that MPs must be generally clueless about just about any issue they cast their vote on in Parliament. (The panel also had another member, one of the media Matthews, not Taylor but another one, who just waffled.)

I missed the BBC promoting this or would have listened will catch it tomorrow

It starts well with GG but is over very quickly descending into a mish-mash of "we must be kind", "it's like gay people", and "I don't want to be like that Germaine Greer".

@SwearyG How about you or other ManFridays trying to get on Any Answers tomorrow?

nauticant I listened to a few debates and came to pretty much the same conclusion about cluelessness. MPs often seem to rely heavily on what people/lobbyist tell them.

@naiticant I used to brief ministers in four or five connected departments - they know juuuuuust enough about their own briefs to get by - but beyond what they have read and internalised on anything else, forget it. Bear in mind they may have zero real life experience of what they are being asked to cover within their own departmental briefs and are limited by their own intellectual and academic ability to get to grips with complex ideas. They will cover their backsides and that’s it. Jess Philips is someone who would make a great minister as she cares deeply and is well informed at a visceral level on many things. Still won’t be voting Labour at the next election unless they get rid of Milne, McDonnell and their puppet.

That Labour MP seriously got my goat. Calling spades spades rather than rubber chickens and saying that people's internal feelings are not reality are 'trivialising the debate' are they? But that is the whole of the debate. And as for the crap about how wonderful we all are now for being more accepting of others - oh really? How accepted do lesbians feel while trans people openly talk about cotton ceilings with no ramifications? How accepted have women ever felt in a society that only values us for looks and where men are still able to rape pretty much with impunity, and have now found a new level of excuse to do so?

Twit.

Jess Philips is someone who would make a great minister as she cares deeply and is well informed at a visceral level on many things.

She just endorsed that Stonewall report, so y'know.

Woah Barry Gardiner's whole response was GG is old, GG is not keeping with the times etc

GG loves toads ❤ now i love her even more.

@LangCleg - what a shame. I’ve been away for ten days with no internet access, so will catch up on that now. Was always wondering whether she would “pick a side”. Now we know. Still value her thoughts on other issues, though.

Can someone explain what Jess Phillips said about the Stonewall report ( which report ? ) . I had some faith in JP , she seems honest and intelligent, she’s worked with domestic violence victims hasn’t she ? I will feel quite sad if she , of all people, can’t see the problems for women in the transactivist agenda.