What ARE the "gender traits" of a woman?

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Following on from comments in other posts, about what construes the "gender traits" of a woman....what the fuck are they?

If they're what I THINK they are....I don't have a single female friend who fits neatly into that space on the game board, not one. On the other hand, looking at "gender traits" of a man, I don't think I have any males in my life who slot in perfectly, either.

Does anyone fit it perfectly? Anyone REAL, I mean. Not some fictional character, I mean a real life living human being.

We all like unicorns.
Damn. That was my answer.

We also like mermaid and unicorn items and would gladly have everything from toilet brushes to entire staircases covered in glitter.

We love hair and makeup and the highlight of our whole life is our wedding day because that is our day, all about us where we can be a real Disney princess for the day.

Puppies and scatter cushions. Sequins and glitter. Fluffy things of all types. Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens?

Can get pregnant unless post-menopausal or have issues with their reproductive system. Can lactate unless they have issue with their mammaries or hormones. Engage in care taking behaviours, primarily toward their own children but sometimes spilling over to other children or childlike creatures (including adult humans with varying degrees of child-likeness), unless they have issues with their brain (autism, depression etc) and/or relational psychology or are significant outliers.

Just checking if I am properly womaning...

Make up/clothes/appearance - no
Children - yes
"Nice" - sometimes
Primary care giver to children - yes, at the moment, soon to swap with (male) DP
Shopping - not really
Prosecco - yes (ditto chocolate)
Cleaning - NO NO NO
Romantic comedies - mostly yuk
Unicorns and mermaids - um, they don't exist so I don't have any particular view.

Not sure what that makes me really. A person with a personality maybe? In fact looking at that list I think my DP would probably give the same answers, maybe a bit less anti-cleaning than me. Because he's got a personality too.

And the TRAs think we are the ones obsessed with binaries.

Stereotypical male traits

Tough, mentally and physically
Forceful
Ambitious
Competitive
Confident
Funny (whereas we all know that women aren't )
Direct
Brave
Don't talk about emotion
Don't express any emotion except anger
Naturally good at DIY and mechanical stuff
Fascinated by sport and cars
Brilliant spatial skills
Hopeless at multitasking, cleaning, cooking, childrearing because of innate qualities (nothing at all to do with learned behaviour/helplessness!)

Yes, I don't know any men like that either. And I do know quite a few women who fit most of that.

The vocal folks who have chosen to become women seem to have a rather specific image of a type of women in their heads that I don't recognise

I recognise them - they are all caricatures. Mainly of a [quite dangerous job role removed by MNHQ and it ain't steeple-jacking]

Oh thanks for that checklist D0do, as I don't seem to get many woman points maybe I'm a man:

Tough, mentally and physically Yes
Forceful Yes
Ambitious Yes
Competitive Sometimes
Confident Yes
Funny (whereas we all know that women aren't hmm) Yes
Direct Yes
Brave Yes
Don't talk about emotion No
Don't express any emotion except anger No
Naturally good at DIY and mechanical stuff No
Fascinated by sport and cars No
Brilliant spatial skills - Good with maps, bad with Ikea
Hopeless at multitasking, cleaning, cooking, childrearing because of innate qualities (nothing at all to do with learned behaviour/helplessness!) No

I'm still confused about what I am...

And again, my DP would give pretty much the same answers but he's hopeless at multitasking except he does Ikea but not maps.

With regards to an award of a GRC, the person, I believe, has to live in their preferred gender for two years.... It would be interesting to challenge the awarding of GRCs on the basis that you can't actually define what 'living as a woman' or 'living as a man' actually entails.

For me,an important part of 'living as a woman' i.e. living as me, is putting on a full face of make up every morning and doing my nails twice a week. Another woman might think I'm crackers and wouldn't dream of wasting her time on any of this stuff. Neither of us are less of a woman because of the views we hold. I agree that 'living as a woman / man' is totally meaningless

going by news reports in the past week, the main gender trait of a woman would be getting your cock out in public and posting photos of it online

Visions

Well who among us hasn't done a bit of cheeky cock waving in our time?

Another woman might think I'm crackers and wouldn't dream of wasting her time on any of this stuff.

You are crackers . My devotion to my nails consists of scraping the mud out before I make a loaf of bread.

Yes I have clean hands when I knead.

At least I do by the end.

I wonder how much attention is paid to the language used by men and women. There are a couple of websites (www.hackerfactor.com/GenderGuesser.php and www.uclassify.com/browse/uclassify/genderanalyzer_v5) which do textual analysis on pieces of writing and decide whether they were written by a man or a woman. This is based on an algorithm learned through analysing texts. I've done this several times with things I've written and am definitely at least 80% male (I'm not. But I am an educated woman!)

I once went to a live recording it Top Gear (it was awful), I am clearly a man.

Raindrops on noses and whiskers on kittens
Glittery stilettos and pink silky knickers,
Plastic ASOS packages, with frilly things
These are a few of my favourite things

Cream-coloured ponies and shopping with the gir-rls
Chocolate and lipstick
And puppies like poodles
Wild nights in mini skirts and faux diamond rings
These are a few of my favourite things

In the dominance/submission paradigm that is the basis for the gender hierarchy women are the submissives.

PersephoneInTheGarden

I took that test and am 80% male in my writing in spite of being an uneducated female mother of two. I concluded that it was not I but the algorithm that was incorrect.

thebewilderness yes, I agree - I suppose gender stereotypes apply to language/word usage too, so it can't really ever be correct.

If you ask genderists this question directly they clam up. However if you listen to what they say in their brave "I always knew I was a girl because... stories you have your answer.

Even famous women who clearly spend an inordinate amount of time and money on conforming to society’s idea of how a woman should look are not truly gender conforming, for I don’t believe they also spend their time doing housework and wiping arses. In this sense nobody is really gender conforming because it is impossible for one person to conform to all the expectations and all the stereotypes.

This is why i don't get non binary as an identity. Surely everyone is non binary gender wise.

Non-Binary Traits

• Grandiose ideas of being so special that they can't fit into any category

-Favourite song: Chesney Hawkes, I Am the One and Only

• Would have been a Goth in previous decades, but that's not cool anymore (except for blue hair and nail varnish)
• In a state of perpetual protest about this binary, that binary and the other binary (that's three)
• while waitng for the man of his dreams to sweep him off his feet, his significant other is a lesbian
• Cannot explain why he is in a relationship with a lesbian, despite the male pattern baldness, beard and willy. It's so much easier to distract people with the non-binary shite
• Tend to grow up and ditch the category when they reach the age of 21 years or so, with exceptions (see above)

Exactly Jilly, but most people just get on with being themselves, and don't have to bore on about being special and different all the time

That's funny PamAyres

Gender non-conforming and non-binary make absolutely no sense.

Other than having a female body, is there anything that all women have in common? That would imply that having a female body is what defines a woman.

Exactly voice......we're women because we have female biology. It all comes down to science and biology in the end, doesn't it?