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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Saying no to men

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OunceOfFlounce · 31/07/2018 10:30

I've heard the idea on here that its useful for a woman to say no to a man about something trivial in order to see how he reacts. I like this idea a lot and wonder if anyone could give an example of when they've done this irl and how they've interpreted the results?

I don't really get this kind of advice anywhere other than here.

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FlyingOink · 13/12/2018 20:17

And then there's the question of how willing you are to risk your safety by telling men no.
Men absolutely do not see or recognise this. It's why they moan about women ghosting them, or letting them down gently, or "friendzoning" them. It's why they can't understand why women aren't into hooking up with strangers, or why gay men get more action. Hookup and dating apps for straight people have fake female profiles to hide the fact it's a total sausagefest.
I've risked my safety to say no, I've been attacked too. My high risk strategy was borne entirely out of being a bolshy little shit when I was younger. Which is why I always labour the point about men being ridiculously stronger than women. 90s ladette culture (remember that?) made me believe it wasn't always the case.

FlyingOink · 13/12/2018 20:21

UnderMajorDomoMinor
I'm going to watch the crowds now. I've noticed this about men, buy surely they must get out of each others' way? Is there a Pedestrian "Chicken" rulebook?

LangCleg · 13/12/2018 20:57

Men absolutely do not see or recognise this. It's why they moan about women ghosting them, or letting them down gently, or "friendzoning" them.

This!

Weezol · 13/12/2018 21:18

FlyingOink

Men do indeed play Pedestrian Chicken. If you can grab a seat in a busy public place it's quite something to observe. Usually the classic Alpha wins, but every so often they don't, their reaction is fascinating.

I'm a small straight female and I found my rock solid 'no' at about the same time I realised I have little to no interest in having a relationship again - I was married and have had a couple of LTR. I like men and have mostly male friends, but I couldn't be doing with one in the house on a regular basis.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplands · 17/12/2018 13:35

Just been pointed to this thread from another, really useful reading for me. Ereshkigal that audio really is chilling. Do you know who the author is? Like another poster I'm really interested in what the clues were for the women who spotted them and ran.

Also the point about not smoothing men's social interactions for them is very true and god, I've been guilty of that so often.

BobbinThreadbare123 · 19/12/2018 17:49

I enjoy the stare down when walking, now. I work on a very large shipyard and it's a mostly male workforce. I absolutely will not shift for any man who tries walking at me. This has only backfired once and I got a snidey 'fuck you' in which he heard! I also diverted to here from that other thread.

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