Stella Creasey again

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Sorry I am seething. Just watched SC give a talk at HoC on Women in Politics - What next. All pretty unremarkable but at the end she says she recognises her privilege as a middle class woman and as a 'cis' woman.
Does she not realise that she has just declared the 'privilege' of every single woman who isnt trans. Nice one.

She is unbearable.

When it comes to conflicts in rights between women and transgender people, you can always rely on Stella to throw women under the bus:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3206625-Meeting-With-Stella-Creasy-Advice-Please

Such a shame Stella buys into this trans ideology and uses phrases like 'cis privilege' because on all other counts she is definitely the sort of MP we want in parliament imo.

Perhaps there is mileage in some of the groups springing up, such as WPUK or WNTT requesting meetings with female MPs to try and explain our position calmly.

Stella is a completely lost cause on this. A woman who can respond to the mother of an 11-year-old daughter who was wanked at in her school changing room with peer-on-peer assault will never get it. Stella deliberately doesn't get it. She is not misguided.

She doesn't get the middle class privilege at all.

How many middle class women does she think are in prison?

Self-ID means a convicted male intact rapist could be in their prison saying he's female. How much cis privilege is that?

Never going to happen to Stella Creasy though is it.

Stella Creasy's privilege doesn't come from being a woman but from being white, educated and middle class.

... and in a position of relative power.

Stella Creasy is a disgrace.

Some day these threads are going to come back to haunt her, when she denies throwing women to the wolves to make herself woke

Does anyone know if she was selected through an all women shortlist?

Creasy was selected from an all woman shortlist:

www.lwn.org.uk/all_women_shortlists

Thank you Jacky. So not only privileged but pulling up the drawbridge as well.

So not only privileged but pulling up the drawbridge as well.

What a disappointment.

Cis privilege

What does that even mean?

Boggling here

I'm pretty gender conforming, not because I'm cool with my gender but because I like an easy life (and I like having sex with men)

However I don't regard that as a 'privilege'

With people like Stella Creasy (who IS a well respected MP and does a whole lot for women) we have to focus on the issues of danger. The actual evidence about transgender groups flouting Working Together, the sexual assaults on women in prisons, the trans groups / political parties advocating for the rights of Ian Huntley, "Marie Dean' etc. All the things on the "this never happens ' list that clearly evidence the harm being caused to children and women.
There's no point in arguing about cis or TWAW with her. She has the lefty blokes from Momentum breathing down her neck and she's just not going to go there. They're too hostile and dangerous to her position.
It's frustrating when powerful women dismiss dangers to the vulnerable because they're enthralled by powerful lobby groups - but twas ever thus. Just keep on highlighting the indefensible - after all, we are being provided with the evidence on a daily basis.

How many male politicians talk about their cis male privilege?

Cos I don't recall Boris Johnson ever saying how privileged he was not to be trans.

Nor Jeremy Corbyn.

Nor Vince Cable.

This sums up Stella and all the other 'woke' female politicians

"This is a classic case of women who have attained a level of relative entitlement and equality that the majority of women simply do not experience and probably never will, drawing the ladder up behind them to placate the males they depend on to allow to keep all that privilege."

I very much doubt that even Bromentum forced Creasy into sharing a Vogue photo shoot commemorating womens suffrage with Paris Lees.

I think 'cis privilege' is a telling phrase coined by the TRA bunch that reveals all the usual appropriation, resentment and self-centredness.

It appropriates the notion of 'white privilege' or even 'male privilege', both of which are predicated on an understanding that a certain group, higher up the foodchain socially, have advantages denied to those lower down.
It is really hard to make the case that women as a worldwide class have huge advantages, so 'female privilege' would fall very flat, but the use of the genuinely othering word 'cis' means that a certain section of the male population can squat on this notion of being the most oppressed class of humans ever by suggesting that actual women have advantages they aren't even aware of.

Unpacking that is instructive, because most women, when presented with this idea, are baffled about what advantages they have that they didn't know about. And it does seem to boil down to being able to have 'a room of one's own', the ability to maintain clear boundaries, to say 'no'.

The kind of people who would have a problem with women retaining those 'privileges' are precisely the ones we don't want in our spaces.

Cis privilege
What does that even mean?

It means being willfully blind to issues outside safe middle class experience and trying to appear as if you understand.

Just stick on Pulp's Common People and have done with it.

Just stick on Pulp's Common People and have done with it.

LOL! Quite!

Seriously though: Stella is a lost cause. There is no argument that will convince her. She knows them all already and has deliberately rejected them. There is no point even trying with her.

www.telegraph.co.uk/women/business/third-bosses-avoid-hiring-women-could-have-children-soon/

Decisions are made by whoever is in the room at the time and with stuff like this affecting women we need to ensure that women have appropriate representation. Surely Creasy knows that?

A Lib Dem recently answered a panel question stating that as TWAW it’s fine for parliament to be 50% women - which is actual bollocks because no transwoman is ever going to be consigned to the ‘mummy track’ or overlooked for a job entirely because they are 30ish and might want maternity leave in the next 10 years.

Cis-privilege? My arse.

Cis Privilege posits that someone like Caitlyn Jenner is more oppressed than a child bride or victim of FGM.

It's utter bollocks. Great swinging hairy ones at that.

I have wondered to what extent politicians supportive of the transgender community are aware of the allegations of trans misogyny by transwomen against transmen.

I very much doubt that even Bromentum forced Creasy into sharing a Vogue photo shoot commemorating womens suffrage with Paris Lees.

Quite. I see that whole thing as trolling women. Creasy is a disgrace on this issue.