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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Times reporting on the harassment of A Woman's Place UK

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enoughisenough12 · 23/07/2018 07:55

Good to see that the press continues to pick up on attempts to silence free speech.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/facebook-blocks-links-to-women-s-rights-group-q367rvz5m?shareToken=8912e7caa7b6869480647eb0fb1f4b32

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R0wantrees · 23/07/2018 10:33

Recent talk:
Tea Uglow gave herself a unique and imaginative title to match the unique and imaginative work she does at Google Creative Lab Sydney. As “Experimental Person-in-Charge”, she has worked with artists, writers, and performers on seven books, 17 websites, six apps, a feature film, three plays, two concerts, four museum exhibits, and a teddy bear that talks. In this talk, Uglow explains why her success as a leader is rooted not in what she knows, but in what she doesn’t know:

Why the best creative leaders value the skillsets they don’t have
Why creatives shouldn’t have to-do lists
And how her journey as a transgender woman shows that you can’t truly plan your life or career"

Example of Tea's previous work:
www.ted.com/talks/tom_uglow_an_internet_without_screens_might_look_like_this

CanineEnigma · 23/07/2018 10:38

Someone has alluded to it in the comments.

BoreOfWhabylon · 23/07/2018 10:51

Well done Idiots In Charge and SilverLady (am sure they are MNers)

BoreOfWhabylon · 23/07/2018 10:55

And Christina Forte, although I think she might have got it the wrong way round about only 80% of trangender people seeking to have any sort of medical process

Wanderabout · 23/07/2018 11:37

Does mimmymum still currently work at Metmaids? Did she when that tweet was posted?

Wanderabout · 23/07/2018 11:37

Metmaids? Mermaids sorry.

R0wantrees · 23/07/2018 11:40

Wanderabout There was discussion about this on the thread discussing the Telegraph reporting of WPUK being targetted on FB.

Bumbungo · 23/07/2018 12:01

Ha ha, she's pissed

twitter.com/mimmymum/status/1021336822968971264

Oh dearie. The Times' lawyers will be quaking now.

Indierockandroll · 23/07/2018 12:03

Ha! Well she wants it investigating and so they should.

Murky waters.

Bumbungo · 23/07/2018 12:04

She also encouraged people to contact Graham Linehan's agent re his 'transphobia'. That worked well....

twitter.com/_IanMacpherson/status/1021339442819358720

Indierockandroll · 23/07/2018 12:06

The net is closing...

Waddlelikeapenguin · 23/07/2018 12:23

Thank you for linking.
And as always silverlady Star

R0wantrees · 23/07/2018 12:25

Interesting to see which Twitter accounts are tagged in to Mimmymum's tweet claiming her limited influence.

I've heard Ian Macphearson on the radio.
(Radio 4 is definitely not in thrall to TR ideology)

The Times reporting on the harassment of A Woman's Place UK
The Times reporting on the harassment of A Woman's Place UK
Vickyyyy · 23/07/2018 13:56

Yeah not thrilled with the 'transsexual activists' part. Generally, from what I have seen, transsexual people seem to be fairly gender critical. Its almost always male 'trans' people who are transactivists, and it seems to be fuck all to do with advancing trans rights, more, tearing down the current rights of female people.

AngryAttackKittens · 23/07/2018 13:58

Is she going to have West Yorkshire police call The Times?

I'll make the popcorn.

AtreidesFreeWoman · 23/07/2018 14:18

It's good to see that there's a growing awareness of the tactics being used.

I honestly don't think it's going to be long before Mermaids get into real difficulties.

EmpressWeaponisedClitoris · 23/07/2018 14:25

I honestly don't think it's going to be long before Mermaids get into real difficulties.

I hope so. Kids need protection.

Indierockandroll · 23/07/2018 14:57

The abuse of a certain charity's position is absolutely chilling. It should strike fear into parents anf it does, but why not politicians?

Why not? Exposure of children to this. Exploitation, grooming. It's all shades of wrong yet volunteers and trustees lurk behind a facade of 'support'

It's wretched.

OlennasWimple · 23/07/2018 15:08

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BoreOfWhabylon · 23/07/2018 15:26

Mermaids is going to go the way of Kids Company. Only with much more damage in its wake.

R0wantrees · 23/07/2018 15:31

The abuse of a certain charity's position is absolutely chilling. It should strike fear into parents anf it does, but why not politicians?

James Kirkup asked questions of this back in May after the Home Affairs Committee
concluding:
"[Stephen Doughty MP], meanwhile, describes as “extreme” and “hate material” an article which observes that some people lobbying for changes in the name of transgender people are advocating things that might not be in the best interests of children. I have never met Doughty but have generally heard good things about him from colleagues: bright, committed, thoughtful and so on. So I must assume that he was having an off day when the committee met last week. It happens to us all, after all.

Surely a bright, thoughtful chap like him didn’t mean to imply that it was his job as Member of Parliament to tell newspapers what they can and cannot write? Surely he had no intention of acting as if it is in any way appropriate for a politician to decide what is and is not acceptable for journalists to say, and how they say it? And I can only hope that it was by a simple accident that he singled out by name a female journalist and suggested that her employers stop her saying the things that she thinks – because Doughty happens not to like her saying those things?

As I say, I must assume that he meant none of these things, that he had no such moronic and bullying intent when he spoke and acted as he did. I assume that Doughty is an honourable politician determined to do his job in a democracy and ensure that matters of public policy are debated fully and honestly, whether or not some people find such debate offensive. Because, as I am sure Doughty knows, there is no right not be offended and if we ever let hurt feelings stop us discussing matters of public interest on the basis of the facts, everyone loses.

And it is because I am sure that he is wholly committed to such debate that I decided to write this article. Thanks for everything you’re doing to encourage the free press and open debate, Mr Doughty."

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/05/why-are-some-mps-trying-to-shut-down-the-transgender-debate/

Mossandclover · 23/07/2018 15:45

I find this clip thought provoking though not specific to this debate, about manipulating your audience... m.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZBKX-6Gz6A

Mossandclover · 23/07/2018 15:54

Don’t worry Helen, the times article doesn’t say you caused the ban only that it coincided with your tweet encouraging people to falsely report the page. Phew! You’re off the hook!

Wanderabout · 23/07/2018 17:27

Facebook still censoring WPUK.

It won't let them post their campaign demands:

mobile.twitter.com/Womans_Place_UK/status/1021427674793816069

Link to their ridiculously reasonable demands:

womansplaceuk.org/our-demands-2/

DeckSofa · 23/07/2018 18:20

Interesting video Moss. Very true!