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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Why are Fawcett staying so silent???? Are they afraid?

52 replies

loveyouradvice · 19/07/2018 15:43

I caught the comment about Sam Smethers being tight-lipped as others on the panel said they would be happy for transwomen to be half of AWS.... I do NOT understand why the brave Fawcett Society who have championed women for so long and so unfashionably are NOT speaking up...

I did start wondering if it is because they are worried they will lose the position they've acquired - go to organisation for politicos and media on women and inequality - if they are outspoken and gender critical.... whether they have decided this is a battle that might be lost and would therefore endanger their organisation

That said, surely if they did it in an even handed way, enabling women's voices to be heard??? Surely they could do something powerful

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OvaHere · 19/07/2018 16:22

As you say it's fear of losing their position, funding maybe and generally not being invited to the party amongst the current woke politicians.

It's a tightrope I imagine because if they let women down and allow males to dominate they will lose female support and respect.

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 19/07/2018 16:48

I'm so disappointed in Fawcett. I had Hugh high hopes of them given the careful wording of their trans statement. But someone just told me they support Gendered Intelligence Sad

UpstartCrow · 19/07/2018 16:52

I'm not surprised about societies such as WEP or Fawcett. Especially not after a recent thread which revealed that people who volunteer for CAB dont get any training on domestic violence.
Its a much needed reminder that people who lead sheltered lives must feel all the claims around safeguarding sound a bit extreme.

I am more concerned when groups that are used to dealing with coercion and male violence cave.

Terfnserf · 19/07/2018 18:22

I joined last year and I am massively disappointed, resigning next week when I get a moment I think. I did email them about the whole gender thing but they never replied.

Pratchet · 19/07/2018 20:07

It's money, in my opinion.

Pratchet · 19/07/2018 20:09

Former board members include Natalie Bennett and a Stonewall chair

Pratchet · 19/07/2018 20:10

Actually wrong - current chair is former Stonewall director. It's the metro woke social bubble.

thebewilderness · 19/07/2018 20:17

Having taken over the leadership of the LGBT organizations the transgender advocates moved on to taking over leadership of women's rights and Feminist organizations.
The result is that the leadership of all these advocacy groups boldly come out as misogynistic homophobic MRAs. The members either applaud their erasure or depart.

Pratchet · 19/07/2018 20:18

Yes: as with the lesbian organisations, so that lesbian and women's organisations are erased top down.

FloralBunting · 19/07/2018 20:25

Meh. When I was very little I had a notion that grown ups would be able to organize around a principle, stay true to certain aims, and achieve objectives.

It's taken around four decades for me to realize that every single human organization becomes a corporate display of self serving cronies whose only connection to integrity is that it's a useful buzzword for glossy set backing and fundraising leaflets.

Yes, I'm having a cynical evening.

Materialist · 19/07/2018 20:36

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Floorplan · 19/07/2018 20:40

They've gotaken money in tissue engineering and printing too. Theyou are creating a market for grow your own penis/vulva. If 10% of the country is trans the market for realistic organs made in culture or by printing would be huge. But you need the market that's the thing.

Pratchet · 19/07/2018 20:47

This is why they fight so underhand, so viciously and will throw under the bus women, intersex people, lesbians, gay men, kids. They do no care. To them, the prize is worth it. Truly sadistic.

R0wantrees · 19/07/2018 20:57

But someone just told me they support Gendered Intelligence

Dr Em twitter thread on Gendered Intelligence & Fawcett Society:

twitter.com/PankhurstEM/status/1018457216272171008

Why are Fawcett staying so silent????  Are they afraid?
Wanderabout · 19/07/2018 21:11

Yes: as with the lesbian organisations, so that lesbian and women's organisations are erased top down.

New orgs needed. Urgently.

flintyminty · 19/07/2018 21:27

This tweet sums it up:

Why are Fawcett staying so silent????  Are they afraid?
flintyminty · 19/07/2018 21:29

Sorry, image a bit small:

"This is a classic case of women who have attained a level of relative entitlement and equality that the majority of women simply do not experience and probably never will, drawing the ladder up behind them to placate the males they depend on to allow to keep all that privilege."

Floorplan · 19/07/2018 21:40

Those tweets by Dr email on GI are a complete and utter revelation to me! The NHS. .what!

Floorplan · 19/07/2018 21:41

Dr Em Wink

Floorplan · 19/07/2018 21:42

I'm literally in shock. The shear power and abuse of.

EmpressWeaponisedClitoris · 19/07/2018 21:43

I'm so disappointed in the Fawcett Society. Courage calls to courage? How ironic.

Pratchet · 19/07/2018 21:44

They'll be tossed aside in the end, when they have served their purpose. Bent over a chair and caned.

Floorplan · 19/07/2018 21:48

There is literally no point in a society which assists women to share power with men, and then includes men. They are basically assisting men to power and are worse than useless. I fucking hate them.

annandale · 19/07/2018 21:53

Surgery as the FIRST option if you don't feel comfortable in your body? That makes perfect sense. Unbelievable.

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