The New Misogyny

[BadasIwannaB]

Reading the March thread (www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3309913-March) got me thinking, we need a name for the problem we want to draw attention to. And it needs to be a name that makes it clear that it’s not that we are ‘transphobic’/denying transgender people’s human rights/right to exist etc.

I think people - especially journalists - can be lazy, and when they reach for a name to give to our concerns, the closest things - to their mind - to hand are things like ‘anti-trans’ etc.

And this isn’t helping us get listened to.

And it is making it very easy for us to be ignored and dissed.

So how about a name that makes it clear at a glance what we are taking issue with? So here’s a suggestion: ‘The New Misognyny’ or maybe ‘Misogyny 2.0’.

I mean, I’m sure both expressions have been used before in slightly different contexts, but here’s my thinking:

It makes it clear that what we are objecting to is the way that this supposed right-on-ness/wokeness is really just a free pass to ignore the concerns of women (summed up very nicely in comments from Wanderabout and Popchyk on the www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3309903-Sexual-assaults-on-Vulnerable-Women-Prisoners thread:

‘The report references risk of harm to the male offender, not the female inmates forced to share accommodation 	with them.
This sums up everything that is wrong with that report and the 	state of the worldwide debate on this issue.’

and to threaten, intimidate and dehumanise women who dare to challenge the dogmas.

What do you think? Could it catch on? Could it help make clear what our problem is and get us listened to?

LaSquirrel Given that a lesbian is a female homosexual, how can any male be a lesbian, please?

The problem with the media reports on the protest (calling them 'anti-trans') possibly arose because of a lack of clarity as to what was meant by 'transactivist' - this was the specific group the lesbians were protesting against, not trans people in general. And, I'm sure there are some perfectly reasonable trans-rights proponents who are not seeking to infringe women's rights. We encounter the same misunderstandings of 'TRA' on FWR but we aren't constrained to trying to convey a message on banners and a flyer in a short space of time.

The true nature of the protest was females defending their rights against male incursion.

Hard for the protesters to communicate this succinctly though - most rational people who've not heard of the 'cotton ceiling' phenomenon would look at a banner '"Lesbian is a female homosexual". and merely be puzzled why anyone would need to state the obvious.

Do girls and women have a right to say no to penis, or not? *

I think this does sum it up.
Reclaim is also powerful.

I also repeat the wording that a woman is an adult human female.

I must go to bed now. But two words on the what it feels like to be a woman sprung out

No entry (insomniac musings from me, but wondering if that would work on several levels?)

No cuntry, for old men.

'What it feels like to be a woman' thread sprung out

Not 'what it feels like to be a woman sprung out'

Oh Ugly that's a slogan

Gynerasure is what they're doing. (Remember Shon Faye's 'Enjoy ur erasure'?)
Safeguarding is one of the things - probably the main thing - that needs protecting and promoting. But there is also the political angle: the need to be able to talk about oppressions suffered by a class of people due to common biology. And there's the social angle of having your own language policed and silenced.

I was also playing around with the idea of 'dressing up' (just call me Dave and pass me the glitter nail polish, but only on a Monday) but then again we know the likes of certain non binary activists like to retain their 'outwardly male image' and beards oh and dicks.

So, grooming = dress it up that children need to be medicated and taught from a young age they are in the wrong body

Rape = dress it up as needing to access the spaces where women and children go

Misogny = dress it up that women need a new name and no voice with which to speak

Dress it up all you want, but
womanhood is not a costume. It's a biological truth.