From Country Squire Magazine of all unlikely places

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Really powerful article by transwoman Tarquin Sutherland

countrysquire.co.uk/2018/07/17/welcome-to-the-terf-wars/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Excellent article, thanks

So much for trying to be inclusive to trans women.

I'd be surprised if InfamousT wasn't banned to be honest.

The very idea of a Conservative government even giving this specious postmodernism the time of day – let alone accepting the language of the linguistic warfare of postmodernism by repeating their mantras and adopting their lexicon – should be enough to dispel any specious notions of this group of people being in any way ‘oppressed’. To the rational eyes of the bipartisan onlooker for whom this bleeding edge of the Culture War has only become recently and starkly apparent, it is plain to see that this tiny group is easily one of THE most powerful that our society has seen in a long, long time – and that they wield that power with a casual disregard for reputations, careers and livelihoods

Absolutely. Spot on.

That's an insightful piece of writing. Bookmarked. Thanks.

While this might be the only time I ever write this, RatRolyPoly is right on some things in their post above. When Tarquin Sutherland came on here a while back they made comments on a wide range of topics, some of the things they were writing being well outside the mainstream.

Therefore, while this article is worth reading, if you recommend it just keep in mind that the author is prone to writing rather startling things elsewhere.

I thought it was a good article.

Pulled a lot of strands together for people who are perhaps not aware of what has been going on.

Well, I think I'd disagree with Tarquin/Tamsin about a lot of things but s/he is absolutely spot on with this article imo.

While this might be the only time I ever write this, RatRolyPoly is right on some things in their post above. When Tarquin Sutherland came on here a while back they made comments on a wide range of topics, some of the things they were writing being well outside the mainstream.

Therefore, while this article is worth reading, if you recommend it just keep in mind that the author is prone to writing rather startling things elsewhere.

Me too. I like T but they do think some bonkers things as well as knowing a lot about the evolution of trans culture and disliking the pomo as much as I do.

Tamsin writes good articles and was welcomed onto MN earlier this year. Sadly it turned into a car crash. Real shame.

I’m familiar with Tarquin/ Tamsin Sutherland from twitter and they definitely have a powerful story to tell.

They transitioned over ten years ago and now regret that decision and feel very let down by the coercion they feel was exerted on them by those around them in the run up to their decision to transition. This includes friends and medical professionals and the wider group who actively promote a trans lifestyle.

My sense of them as a person is that they are intelligent and generally decent (they do have rants on Twitter about things that I would consider conspiracy theories occasionally) but they are very angry about where they have been left in life as a result of the unscientific ideas about changing sex that they feel they were led to believe in.
They now suffer from lots of medical conditions both physical and psychological and they have been the target of intimidation and bullying in real life. They have described how post transition they have been given no support by the state.

Their story is a stark reminder of the real human cost of the current accepted orthodoxy about changing sex. It’s not all unicorns and rainbows. Reality does exist and there are lifetime consequences for individuals. Individuals who are discarded by the group once they no longer go along with the fairytale that biological sex is changeable.

Thanks for that insight QuarksandLeptons.

That is such a sad story Quarks.

I'm guessing that there are no groups (charities or whatever) who help people who regret their transition? Or who maybe even struggle to come to terms with the transition?

Presumably the likes of Stonewall wouldn't help?

They transitioned over ten years ago and now regret that decision and feel very let down by the coercion they feel was exerted on them by those around them in the run up to their decision to transition.

Well that's an interesting turnaround.

In 2012 deciding to transition gave Tamsin/Tarquin the ability, for the first time in their life, not to hate what they saw when they looked in the mirror.

And what drove them to contemplating suicide, in 2012 at any rate, was in fact the discrimination and abuse they faced for being transgender.

So yeah. Quite the turnaround.

www.standard.co.uk/news/london/i-owe-my-life-to-kind-twitter-users-who-rescued-me-from-the-brink-of-suicide-7737388.html

Thanks for that insight QuarksandLeptons.

Seconded.

So yeah. Quite the turnaround.

I think it is somewhat surprising to see a trans ally having a go at someone for having a shifting identity.

That link needs a warning for the sodding great picture at the top of the article.

Rat, you know you are doing a lot of outing and deadnaming and doxxing on this thread, right?

Which you normally completely condemn.

I think it is somewhat surprising to see a trans ally having a go at someone for having a shifting identity

I'm not surprised. Unless trans people walk the walk and talk the talk and sing loudly of rainbows and unicorns they are as ostracised as the rest of us who question the orthodoxy.

I think it is somewhat surprising to see a trans ally having a go at someone for having a shifting identity.

It's not their shifting identity that I'm interested in, it's who they think are the villains that keeps on changing.

For the longest time it was the transexualism that was their saviour, and the people who didn't accept them in their transexualism were the problem.

Now, apparently, it's transexualism that's all that is evil and the people who don't accept it are the blessed relief.

You'll forgive me for calling that "quite the turnaround".

Rat, you know you are doing a lot of outing and deadnaming and doxxing on this thread, right?

Everything is out there in the public domain, written by Tarquin's own fair hand.

Ah.

Tarquin made me do it.

Just to clarify - I’m just describing what I’ve observed from following Tarquin / Tamsin on Twitter. I don’t claim to speak for them.

Rat, thanks for the article link. I guess potentially what that article in addition to T’s current position shows is that mental health issues should be compassionately treated in a holistic manner. The whole person and their history should be assessed in a neutral way.

One way of interpreting what has happened to Tarquin / Tamsin is that they had / have issues that were never properly faced and that healthcare professionals never properly assessed. As a result they were never given the support, care and treatment they actually needed.

It appears that transitioning was seen as a panacea and cure all solution and then T was left to it without being actually given real support. Indeed no one seems to have suggested that transition wasn’t a solution but actually something that would make their life even harder.

One might challenge that had they been given proper support when they first presented themselves to healthcare professionals that they could have sidestepped the complications and heartache they have no suffered as a result of transitioning and tackled the real source of their depression and sadness at their life at that time.

It just seems a remarkable lack of compassion for a trans person struggling with issues related to their experience RatRolyPoly.

It's almost like there's a sympathy hierarchy.