Newsnight now Pink News Editor

[Wanderabout]

On now LGBT and possibly gender self Id

Have mentioned the survey in intro

Watching

It's just for changing paperwork, says Benjamin

(it is not)

Interesting - a recent shift in opinion among gay men towards supporting trans rights

Lesbians, he says, are more sceptical

(paraphrasing somewhat)

and he signed off by saying people had fears that men would go into women's changing rooms, but of course this has never happened.

Puzzling: "trans people have been able to self identify for years" and also "people have read about these mythical trans people in the Daily Mail, who are going into womens changing rooms, which is not happening"

So he missed the whole Topshop debacle then?

tbf it was all quite rushed.

Very good job, I thought.

I guess Newsnight haven't read Fair Play for Women's letter then:

As a matter of policy, what guidance is given to BBC editorial staff about how to ensure the voices of women concerned about the impact on their rights in relation to trans issues are fairly represented?

www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/contact_us/making_a_complaint.html

dinosaursandtea so you agree that there's no question of trans people in womens changing rooms?

Can I ask a daft question? Either the "paperwork" reform means absolutely nothing to trans people practically, and therefore we might ask why GRA reform must be forcefully pushed through like this, OR it could have significant impact on female spaces. The more trans activists talk, the more the whole process of transitioning actually does seem to affect single-sex facilities already... I'm never quite clear on what the actual TRA line is here.

Personally I think you're supposed to ignore it as trivial and then wake up to find you have been legislated out of existence.

But they don't get together and agree a position so they contradict each other.

On what planet would someone have to be to NOT know about trans people in women's changing rooms etc

Debbie Hayton has tweeted about this. I can't actually tweet at the moment but Editor of Newsnight is @esmewren if anyone wants to say something about the complete absence of even acknowledging an alternative view existed, let alone challenging the bollocks Mr Penis News came out with.

Currently it is possible to exclude transgenders from female only spaces. With streamlined process of getting documents that say female for persons with penis and balls it crates conditions whereby they cannot be told no when trying to access female only spaces.
If the ID says female you are breaking the law to deny them entry.

Saw this interview totally by accident. Yes it did seem rushed. Benjamin whatever was skipping over any points that were controversial and not quite telling the truth on others.

It was really shit journalism. Which is surprising because Evan Davis is a proper journalist and usually really good. And Newsnight know fine well about balancing voices.

This is why the Equalities people in the civil service (evening Ollie 'transadvocate' Entwistle) wanted the GRA consultation launch on the same day as the LGBT plan. It enables transadvocates to appear on TV without a balancing voice - because they're talking about an LGBT issue - and while in the chair, knock offer a few dismissive isive comments about the GRA - with no balancing voice. Neat trick, but if it was rushed by NN, does it seem like they were on to it? I haven't seen the segment.

I think Newsnight have their head screwed on. Sounds like a duty call to me.

Thanks for the responses. This is what I figured, because it surely must be much harder to exclude someone from a single sex space if they have a GRC. But the way these activists are spinning it, they make it sound like the simplest possible change in the birth certificate is ultra necessary for trans people, AND that women needn't be concerned. In other words, having a GRC either reinforces a trans person's claim on the spaces of the opposite sex, or it doesn't matter. Which means they need to start telling the truth about potential conflicts of interest, or they need to state that this whole consultation may not be needed because the paperwork they are pushing for is actually irrelevant.

It's worth watching Pratchet. I have rarely seen something so one sided. It was like a puff piece.

Newsnight know full well what they are doing and that there are two sides to this argument.

Weird when BBC bias is usually so checked, they feature climate change deniers every time some talks about oil FFS.

Yes and the BBC has a duty to present balanced viewpoints particularly on controversial issues.