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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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thewonderkid · 16/06/2018 19:14

First post on here! I came upon this board by chance while googling an acronym seen on a Facebook post a few weeks back and have been reading the board daily.

I'd always been an 'each to their own' person and happy for people to do whatever they want as long as it doesn't adversely interfere with me and mine.

However reading on here, my experience at uni (I'm a mature student) and chosen vocation is making me question my standing on certain issues regarding women's rights.

Growing up I always saw it as one rule for me and another for my brother; I was being protected and expected to act in a certain way because I was a girl, whereas my brother could do as he pleased.

I'm now a fully fledged grown up with a daughter in her late teens, a son of secondary school age and another daughter in primary school.

I've always been a bit of a rebel and questioned things. Not in an activist type way but more of ' I want to see and understand the other side of the coin'.

Now, approaching my 40's with a daughter starting out in adult life, I have had enough!

Our rights are being eroded. Being back in education and work for the last 2 years after being a SAHM since the early noughties has completely opened my eyes to the misogynistic, politically correct world we are living and bringing our daughters up in.

The trans stuff is becoming overbearing and distracting. It's hard being a woman but even harder having to fight against men that identify as women and give the impression that they require more rights than biological females. Everyone has the right to be respected and valued no matter how they identify but to disregard how hard women have had to fight and still battle to be heard and given a platform in society, and to be so presumably unaware of how women are treated by men is down right wrong.

In an ideal world we'd all be given equal opportunities, respect and voices. But unfortunately it seems to come down to who can throw their toys out of a pram the hardest and loudest.

Transwomen, you want to be female? Well, sometimes it's hard to be a woman. Thankfully you won't have to fight for centuries to be heard because you're getting the equality you want by the back door. Not through hundred of years of sacrifices.

I look forward to reading, being educated and contributing more to this board.

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heresyandwitchcraft · 16/06/2018 19:23

I am new, too, and agree with your words. Thanks for sharing your story, and welcome! Brew

soupforbrains · 16/06/2018 19:30

Welcome to the boards. I'm not on here as often as I'd like to be but I have in the past posted threads asking for information, guidance and answers. I was late to the feminism boards because I thought it was going to be very aggressive and scary. But everyone has always been extremely patient, polite, friendly, helpful and welcoming to me.

Welcome and I hope you can enjoy and learn too ☺️

garam · 16/06/2018 19:34

not through hundreds of years of sacrifices?

Except trans people have existed throughout the world and ancient history.
They didn't just turn up and demand human rights in the last couple of years.
Even laws have been made regarding trans people existence since the 1960's and April Ashley's involvement in the corbett vs corbett case to set a legal precedent.

Trans people have been fighting for rights since the beginning of time, the fact they are slowly gaining the human rights and acknowledgement in modern times is a sign of how long they have fought for freedoms.

R0wantrees · 16/06/2018 19:34

This is a great thread with some useful links if you're new to what's going on:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

Sarahconnor1 · 16/06/2018 19:35

Welcome.

MN have recently put together some guidelines that you might want to read. There are some words that have been deemed offensive and I wouldn't want you to be banned in your 1st weekend Grin
www.mumsnet.com/info/trans-rights-moderation-policy

Sarahconnor1 · 16/06/2018 19:36

Women have been fighting for rights since the beginning of time, the fact they are slowly gaining the human rights and acknowledgement in modern times is a sign of how long they have fought for freedoms.

heresyandwitchcraft · 16/06/2018 19:44

Women have been fighting for rights since the beginning of time, the fact they are slowly gaining the human rights and acknowledgement in modern times is a sign of how long they have fought for freedoms.

Women have always been half the population, but have had to fight for recognition as equals. Women's rights can be fragile. We see how quickly things can change (e.g. Iran after the revolution). Women's rights are still not universal. I will fight for women's rights.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 16/06/2018 19:46

Women have been fighting for rights since the beginning of time, the fact they are slowly gaining the human rights and acknowledgement in modern times is a sign of how long they have fought for freedoms

Absolutely sarah

Very well said Smile

thewonderkid · 16/06/2018 19:49

Thanks everyone. Lots to read 👍🏻

I just want to be able to guide my daughters and my adult self to be strong women that will be as equal in society as males are (in any way, shape or form that's those males chose to be).

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Juells · 16/06/2018 19:52

* puts on Beavis & Butthead voice *

heh heh heh she said by the back door heh heh heh

R0wantrees · 16/06/2018 19:55

This current thread discussing the threat of a 'device' where a Womans Place UK meeting is to be held is expecially eye-opening:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3278892-Womans-Place-UK-meeting-threatened-with-device

Sarahconnor1 · 16/06/2018 20:00

R0wantrees

Yes there is a rather spectacular take on that thread about who the real victims are when a women's meeting was threatened. Clue : not the women who were threatened.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 16/06/2018 20:02

Clue : not the women who were threatened

Really?

Ive not looked at it cos i thought it woukd be an example of a thread where everyone agrees...interesting

I'll be back in a minute

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 16/06/2018 20:03

Its on 12 pages

Might be more than a minute

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 16/06/2018 20:17

Nope got it

Well that was a doozy wasnt it...and goodness joan was pissed !!

Sarahconnor1 · 16/06/2018 20:27

Yes. I think I swore a bit on that one too Grin

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