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Sign the petition to have Christopher Chope stripped of his knighthood

100 replies

Polynerd · 15/06/2018 22:17

Here it is: if angered by his behaviour re the upskirting bill, please consider signing.
t.co/SdFj7FUyee

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dragontwo · 15/06/2018 22:19

signed

JobQuery · 15/06/2018 22:20

Can you imagine going down in history as the one who said "nah, I'm quite happy with men taking secret pics of girls pants" Hmm

Lottapianos · 15/06/2018 22:21

Signed. Thanks for sharing

RoseAndRose · 15/06/2018 22:23

Is is true, as the BBC have reported, that he (and or his cronies) have done the same to every poorly attended Friday bill?

Because - genuine question - if this has been going on for weeks/months/years, why make a fuss because something that routinely happens has happened again?

Polynerd · 15/06/2018 22:23

Hopefully it will gather some momentum. What a dinosaur.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 15/06/2018 22:25

Because - genuine question - if this has been going on for weeks/months/years, why make a fuss because something that routinely happens has happened again?

Because I might find something funny, hahaha. But if my joke is going to actively hurt an entire section of society, maybe I let it slide this one time.

lottiegarbanzo · 15/06/2018 22:27

As I understood it from the radio report, his objection is a technical one to the mode by which such a bill can become law, unopposed. It was nothing at all to do with the content of the bill. He may or may not disgareee with the content of the bill. We don't know.

Clinicalwaste · 15/06/2018 22:28

Signed, he is a disgrace

TerfsUp · 15/06/2018 22:29

Signed.

NeverTwerkNaked · 15/06/2018 22:30

I agree lottie my understanding is his objection was on technical grounds. Procedure is critical to a healthy democracy. However important a law is, I don’t want to see it slipped through. Because otherwise bad laws can be slipped through too.

Polynerd · 15/06/2018 22:30

Not even bothering to find out what the bills are about seems a derilection (sp?) of duty. Please share on Twitter and FB if interested, all.

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CloudCaptain · 15/06/2018 22:30

Actually no. I think he may have a point. He and others naysay any bill which is hurried through on a poorly attended Friday afternoon, regardless of content. Purely to make sure the bill is reassessed? at a later date. This groups reasons being they don't want any dodgy bills pushed through without proper assessment.
So actually, I think his principles are fine. It's a shame this bill didn't go through because it is needed, but he didn't do it because he's a lech as suggested. I'm sure There's May et all are frothing at the bit to remove him so they can pass their shady bills under the radar.

NeverTwerkNaked · 15/06/2018 22:33

From BBC “Sir Christopher is a leading member of a group of backbench Conservatives who make a practice of ensuring that what they see as well-meaning but flabby legislation is not lazily plopped on to the statute book by a few MPs on a poorly attended Friday sitting.”

As a lawyer, I know the frustrations and injustices of poorly drafted laws. It seems he is a lawyer too, so it might be worth not being too knee jerk here.

LastGirlOnTheLeft · 15/06/2018 22:33

That's rubbish Cloud! On one hand you say he wants to give more thought and debate to bills then in the same breath say that this one is NEEDED!!!

Yes, it IS needed, which is why this stupid man should have shut the fuck up!

PointlessTV · 15/06/2018 22:34

Hmm, I would like to know more about his history of behaviour on a Friday. What if it was the GRA that went through on a Friday?

scotsheather · 15/06/2018 22:35

Signed.

NeverTwerkNaked · 15/06/2018 22:35

Because something is “needed” makes it even more important that is is properly debated and ends up well drafted and workable. Debate often picks out ambiguities in the legislation, for instance, that would otherwise make it a nightmare to implement in practice

NeverTwerkNaked · 15/06/2018 22:35

@PointlessTV ... exactly

MsMcWoodle · 15/06/2018 22:36

Signed.

MrsTerryPratchett · 15/06/2018 22:37

Maybe if politicians actually did their jobs instead of sloping off early on Fridays this wouldn't happen.

Did he read the PMB to see if it was good Law or not?

BettyFloop · 15/06/2018 22:37

Signed. Thanks for sharing OP

Apparently Gina Martin - the woman who got this whole thing moving after being 'up-skirted' at a festival last year - introduced herself to Chope after the session and explained a bit about the origins of the PMB. She said they had a good chat.

Polynerd · 15/06/2018 22:42

He didn't bother to find out what the bill was about. He didn't know what upskirting meant. To me this is an abuse of his privelege.

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Dyrne · 15/06/2018 22:46

I have to agree with PP’s here. I was outraged about his behaviour... right up until I saw the picture on the BBC about how few MPs were there.

It’s sad this bill wasn’t passed today - I believe another bill was objected to today regarding greater protection for police dogs & horses (though no one is outraged about that one, for some reason...)

The bill will go on to be properly debated and will pass. Perhaps, as a OP has said, it will become a more robust bill because of the debate.

We should not have a system where laws are passed by a scant few MPs on a Friday with little fanfare.

Polynerd · 15/06/2018 22:49

Those of you who are defending Chope - he may not be the procedural stickler that he purports to be. Guido tonight are claiming that "He says it’s principle but the truth is he lets his mates’ bills through…"

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Procrastinator1 · 15/06/2018 22:50

He's been an MP for 20 years+ If he doesn't like the system perhaps he should put time and effort into changing it rather than filibustering with his friend and/or making sure the draft bills are properly drafted.

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