Cancer Research: anyone with a cervix

[Aloneinacrowd70]

Not sure how to link to Twitter, but Cancer Research UK have a pinned tweet which says:

'Cervical screening (or the smear test) is relevant for everyone aged 25-64 with a cervix. Watch our animation to find out what to expect when you go for screening #CervicalScreeningAwarenessWeek'

Everyone with a cervix? I think in their attempt to be inclusive, they are potentially excluding women who may not know about their own biology. Plus, they still refer to men with regard to prostate cancer:

www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/prostate-cancer

It's only women who are unable to be named, apparently.

I would have laughed at their stupidity with that second tweet, once upon a time, but it just isn't funny any more.

No one thinks to check why it said woman in the first place. Like no one checks why they have safeguarding in the first place, and no one checks that if they change a law it might affect other laws. Like the Chesterton's gate posted yesterday.

""You can ask for a woman or a man "

This is meaningless now, or maybe it should be said that it doesn't mean what it used to mean and what most service users would still expect it to mean.

Also some quite funny tweets questioning how common it is for women to call and say they want a smear but will ONLY be treated by a man I mean sure maybe it happens occasioanlly but again they are putting something incredibly rare in the interests of "equality".

That chesterton's fence (gate?) thing was really interesting and is v applicable with all of this.

I like it.

I'm wracking my brain to think of any situation a woman would request a man for a smear test...genuine question, when might this happen?

If we assume woman and man meant the same as they did in the ye olden days I mean

I can only think if they have a history of sexual abuse by women, or other types of absue, or a trans man might maybe (?)

I mean I'm sure it happens but it can't be that common.

This "you can ask for a woman" was from back in the day when the docs used to do it and they were more frequently men. There was no need to say "you can request a man" as the default was man.

THis is a significant case as it highlights the conflicts between the rights of a transgender nurse and a female patient requesting a female nurse.

It is also worth considering that a male HCP would have a female chaperone present when doing an intimate examination.

inews.co.uk/news/health/nhs-woman-transgender-nurse-smear-test/

Why are trans men at a higher risk of cancer than natal women? If so is it to do with the hormones they take - well I’m on HRT so I must be at the same high risk.

Newsofas
Where has this been said?

It makes no sense for such statistics to be quoted out of context.

It may be for example that trans men have a significantly higher liklehood of smoking than natal women.

Also, for example there is a higher risk of Ovarian cancer if a woman does not have periods of pregnancy / breast feeding.

etc etc

(sorry Newsofas I didn't mean quoted by you, but by whomever has said this)

something here but it's USA where it seems the insurance system complicates matters

There are all sorts of groups of women who have significantly higher incidence of some types of cancer as well as outcomes.

I'm going to step away but will just mention 'postcode lottery'!)

What CRUK should be doing is having a campaign aimed at women (vast majority

And then a specific more targeted one / or series for the small community of transmen.

That's how you normally go about this stuff.

No-one wants anyone to get preventable cancers. Removing women from the picture when trying to raise awareness around cerviical smears is a (literal) dick move though.

None of these trans policies make sense but this is just taking the puss. How is it excluding by mentioning women, when only those born as women have a cervix ???

To be honest their whole attitude toward this smacks of smug righteousness.

It does.

Completely agree Sardine. I have no problem with trans people as a hard to reach group. I have a problem with "inclusivity" creep which excludes other marginalised women and normalises the idea that women shouldn't think of their biology as a women's issue and should shut up about it so as not to offend trans people of both sexes.

I have no problem with targeting trans people

I saw something; probably a post on twitter saying that transmen were at higher risk. No reasoning though. I thought a lot of transmen were in lesbian relationships (in old money) and not into piv, so probably less at risk.

Don't quote me, but I think transmen have a theoretical higher risk of developing endometrial cancer - no periods, excess testosterone converted to oestrogen in the adrenals, and no progesterone to balance it. Hence a tendency to hysterectomy. Probably a tweet by someone who does not know what a cervix is.

I am new, so sorry that this is a reply to an old thread.
Sad that medical professionals, and cancer research groups, are wasting precious resources on such issues.
Biological sex in binary. There is male and female.
Yes there are intersex conditions, and intersex people may have elements of male and/or male biological characteristics.
But a XY male, born with testes & penis, (even if identifying as a trans female" ) will NOT have a cervix. SIMPLE.

Why is the medical profession appeasing this madness?
Women need cervical smears, and that resource must be available to as many women as possible.

I have mine, and expect it carried out by a female, i do not expect it to be done by a male medical professional, -

NHS womens wards should be for biological women, Simple respect for womens privacy.

Regulatory capture is strong in the medical sector, it seems.

I recently had an email conversation with the editor of MedicalNewsToday, asking why they used so-called "inclusive" language in their articles about women's health (e.g. "pregnant people" - so fucking offensive) while they are quite happy to use "men" and "male" in their articles about blokes.

I honestly don't know where this will end. One thing's for sure, it's women who will be affected the worst.

Exactly right Bezalelle
It is trans ideology that is trying to re define what it means to be female.

Biology seems to be ignored to appease fantasy. It will end when society grows up! like emperors new clothes, society is being blinkered to the obvious, and we are told to appease delusion.

Enough is enough.

Only biological females become pregnant ... END OF.
No XY male, born with testes & penis has ever become pregnant ... COMMON SENSE AND TRUTH WILL PREVAIL