Brian Paddick isbeing investigated for wrongthink

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"I am the subject of a formal complaint to the party about my conduct in connection with these issues, which makes it difficult for me to comment."

twitter.com/brianpaddick/status/1006565249674293248?s=19

Poor bloke! Thats what you get for being open-minded in the Lib Dems.

WHAT
THE
FUCK

I'm beginning to despair - active lib dem member here, but there is a real shut down of gender critical, and in Brian paddick's case, polite-to-gender-critical-people people

Bloody hell. I wonder if that was because he agreed to talk to a womans place. The LGBT lib dem Twitter was furious about that.

At least it's not just women who are being silenced and this will hopefully focus some attention on the tactics used by TRAs.

Was it because he spoke to a group of women when his masters at LGBT Twitter told him that he wasn't allowed to?

Not surprising, is it? Mind you that was a while ago, so he must have committed some different wrongthink more recently.

But it might be a good thing. Paddick is high profile and this will shines a light on the idiocy. I'm glad he's gone public with it.

What anlaf said. I'm resigning my membership. This and the Ian Huntley thing has pushed me over the edge. I'm done with the LDs

I can't imagine that the complaint will be substantiated. Brian Paddick has always come across as an extremely principled, decent and honourable politician. Poor Brian - having the wrath of the TRA's being brought forth on him.

Feel really sorry for him tbh.
He did nothing, other than ask to hear opposing views & be polite to people.

The Lib Dem LGBQT twitter account is toxic & aggressive at the best of times but even I was shocked at the spite they levelled at him.

He was infuriatingly reasonable & polite in his responses to the TRA pile-on - far more diplomatic than I could ever dream of being.

I agree with sarah. This is a good thing.
He asked to hear other views.
He listened.

I wish more bloody politicians would.

They must realise that their beliefs don't stand up to scrutiny when they come down on a person just for asking for alternative views

Are the Libdems Scientologists now? People are to be disciplined for speaking with suppressive persons?

I'm guessing it wasn't just the talking to women thing, because that was a while ago.

I suspect it has something to do with the Ian Huntley thing and the Lib Dems yesterday.

That Alisdair Calder McGregor guy has now protected his tweets (presumably because he was told to by his party).

He was very aggressive towards Paddick on Twitter back in March.

Oh poor man.

He really tried to talk to all sides. He was completely neutral in his approach.

Oh dear. I bet more has gone on in private and he's come over to the dark side and they've realised.

Well, news outlets didn't care about ordinary women being silenced in Labour and didn't care about the Tory MP being investigated over this. But a gay Lib Dem peer? Much more likely to gain bbc's Today or sky news' interest.

What the hell is happening here. Brian is a good man! He's the epitome of what the LDs should be, but they seem to be moving further and further away from that.

I have a good deal of respect for him.

Lord Paddick was one of the only reasons I kept my membership to the Lib Dems after the last few months. However as my concerns and complaints about issues of sexism in the party (not just relating to that twitter account) have been ignored so I decided to resign my membership recently and this makes me glad that I did.

He was completely neutral in his approach.

I bet more has gone on in private and he's come over to the dark side and they've realised.

I think it's more likely the latter to be honest. I like Paddick but he did start off this whole thing with TWAW and I can't understand this bigoted view that they aren't and I was a DV victim and there weren't any shelters for me so women should give me and the TWAW theirs rather than gay men and trans people using up any effort building our own.

Then, after a bit, he went Hmm. I'm seeing women who I know to be good and compassionate and liberal and progressive getting angry here so perhaps I had better investigate further.

Then he went Ok, so I've met some women and I didn't agree with everything they said but I can see they have some valid points and they deffo aren't bigots.

Then, presumably, the complaint went in and we've had radio silence.

The fact that Brian Paddick is under investigation surely only means that a complaint has been made by some members.

It may well not be upheld.

The LibDems are obliged to investigate.

cf www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3263172-Andrew-Gilligan-Latest-bullying-transgender-complaint-swiftly-rejected-by-parliamentary-standards-committee

Lang

What I meant was, once he decided to take soundings, he approached the task as neutrally as he could.

It’s yet another example of GCs saying “of course you must talk to all sides/ be even handed/ allow free speech all round”, only to be met by the TRAs saying “Do exactly what we say/ ban words we dislike/ ignore the stakeholders we are shunning”.

It’s not just a difference of opinion about the content of the debate; It’s a huge difference in approach to how to HAVE the debate. That’s what Paddick has fallen foul of; The narcissistic hysteria.

It just shows, doesn't it. Firstly he went along with the trans shouting of "tw are w". Then he talked to someone, and listened to the other "side" and realised that there is a lot more to it than simply agreeing with a mantra to be "nice". Once he listened to the gc argument, he (seemingly) saw there was reason behind it.

So obviously he has to be silenced.

This must be scary for those who promote the nodebate agenda - they know that once there is a debate their argument will be found to be lacking in common sense, scientific fact or reason. So they have to just keep shouting louder in the hope that no-one will ever get to hear the other side.

This must be scary for those who promote the nodebate agenda - they know that once there is a debate their argument will be found to be lacking in common sense, scientific fact or reason. So they have to just keep shouting louder in the hope that no-one will ever get to hear the other side.

Not reported in the Guardian?

What I meant was, once he decided to take soundings, he approached the task as neutrally as he could.

Yes, he did.

Paddick has updated:

twitter.com/brianpaddick?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

"When I asked what was happening yesterday, I was told that the
complaint made against me to the Lib Dems was no longer being investigated. Thanks for the support and offers of help."

Good for him. Someone obviously realised that wasn't going to play well.