I am S p a r t a c u s

[PermissionToSpeakSir]

I am a woman.

I was a girl.

I am an adult human female.

Something a man can never be.

I am a woman.

People refer to me has her and she.

Sometimes said with deep contempt and misogyny.

I am a woman.

Something a male will never be.

I have a vagina and uterus.

I menstruate and have given birth.

I am a mother.

Something a male will never be.

I have been insulted, assaulted, belittled, dismissed, held back, intimidated, stereotyped, terrorised, mocked, shamed, humiliated because I am a woman.

Something a male can never be.

I feel insulted, appropriated, offended, anxious, tense, depressed, hurt and under siege, when a male claims to be a woman or anyone says a male can be female.

It is not civil or respectful to treat me this way.

I am a woman.

I am Spartacus.

I've been on this thread before, but really need to add to it.
Long time reader and lurker. Love reading everything you ladies talk about, but this is something I feel so strongly about, I can't keep it it. I am gobsmacked by recent events and assaults on free speech. Enough.
I am a woman.
I have been told to be quiet and not rock the boat enough for one lifetime.
Women matter.
We matter.
Enough is enough.
I am bloody Spartacus!

Stonewall include everyone who doesn't match the gender stereotypes associated with their sex

Does any woman here match all the feminine gender stereotypes?

Whose stereotype? Which stereotype? Tut Tut Tut - we shouldn't stereotype people should we now?

Fist bumps all around to all the lurkers who have found their voice, and the wonderful women on the Feminism board🤛🤜🤛🤜Thanks for mine @EmpressOfSpartacus

Oh yes, and fuck ALL of the stereotypes!!

I haven't read the thread yet but since it isn't transphobic (according to a bunch of commenters I saw) I'll add mine.

I am a woman.

I was a girl.

I am an adult human female.

Something confusing to some people.

I am a woman.

People refer to me as her and she.

Sometimes said with deep contempt and misogyny.

I am a woman.

Sometimes frowned on by other women.

I am not defined or contained by simple biology, there's more to being a woman than what's contained in a middle school biology class, simply put

I am more than the sum of my body parts.

I am not a mother

But someday, I hope to be.

I have been insulted, assaulted, belittled, dismissed, held back, intimidated, stereotyped, terrorised, mocked, shamed, humiliated because I am a woman.

Something some people only define women having a uterus and vagina, even if we don't all have one or both at birth or death

I feel insulted, appropriated, offended, anxious, tense, depressed, hurt and under siege, when a woman claims I'm less than them for something so simplistic, like being slightly different.

It is not civil or respectful to treat me this way.

I am a woman.

I am transgender.

I am Spartacus.

I have been expecting this sort or DARVO dance.

Does any woman here match all the feminine gender stereotypes?

Different cultures enforce different sex stereotypes to maintain the gender hierarchy.

GhostTess how do you define woman or girl?

I feel insulted, appropriated, offended, anxious, tense, depressed, hurt and under siege, when a woman claims I'm less than them for something so simplistic, like being slightly different.

How do you define slightly different?

MyRelationshipIsWeird this is actually a really good question. I think it's difficult since most definitions fall back recursively on themselves. But I'll do my best.

If we use so called simple biology we discount differences beteeen chemistry and structure developed before and after birth.

If we use personality we can't reconcile people who have a vagina and uterus but are more masculine in personality traits.

There's also gender theory, which attempts to define woman as being more than the sum of some biological traits and is rather a gender role filled by some people and, as a gender role this is more fluid and prone to change. This is a separate classification from the definition of what biological sex someone is (literally their biological parts at birth). "Woman" spans both of these categories but is not restricted to merely one. How else could women with traditional masculine traits exist?

I don't really subscribe to this either because by that definition all trans women are simply playing a role. Which is very incorrect.

So in final answer to your question "how do I definite woman or girl?" The answer is only that I know it on my heart and in how I feel. I know that being a woman is more than a vagina or uterus. I also know that it's more than a gender role.

So what is a woman? A woman is tremendously strong but at the same time tender. A woman isn't defined by what society says, but sometimes chooses it. A woman is a protector and nurturer, kind when we can be and fiercly protective of our children. But mostly a woman is far more than the sum of her parts.

I know this doesn't really answer your question, but I really feel I lack the words to really describe it. Not because I don't feel it, but because the words k have are too small to describe it.

@GhostTess,

Hello, with all respect to you and your life experience I'm sorry but no, you are NOT Spartacus. I wish you well

I am Spartacus 👊

@CarpeVitam

When the slaves stood side by side all saying they were Spartacus not one told another that they weren't.

Because my struggle had been different to yours doesn't mean we weren't side by side fighting the same fight.

Telling sometime they are not Spartacus is the least Spartacus thing someone could possibly do.

I am Spartacus and so are you.

I haven't read the thread yet

GhostTess you really should...

@MyRelationshipIsWeird this is actually a really good question. I think it's difficult since most definitions fall back recursively on themselves. But I'll do my best.

If we use so called simple biology we discount differences beteeen chemistry and structure developed before and after birth.

If we use personality we can't reconcile people who have a vagina and uterus but are more masculine in personality traits.

There's also gender theory, which attempts to define woman as being more than the sum of some biological traits and is rather a gender role filled by some people and, as a gender role this is more fluid and prone to change. This is a separate classification from the definition of what biological sex someone is (literally their biological parts at birth). "Woman" spans both of these categories but is not restricted to merely one. How else could women with traditional masculine traits exist?

I don't really subscribe to this either because by that definition all trans women are simply playing a role. Which is very incorrect.

So in final answer to your question "how do I definite woman or girl?" The answer is only that I know it on my heart and in how I feel. I know that being a woman is more than a vagina or uterus. I also know that it's more than a gender role.

So what is a woman? A woman is tremendously strong but at the same time tender. A woman isn't defined by what society says, but sometimes chooses it. A woman is a protector and nurturer, kind when we can be and fiercly protective of our children. But mostly a woman is far more than the sum of her parts.

I know this doesn't really answer your question, but I really feel I lack the words to really describe it. Not because I don't feel it, but because the words k have are too small to describe it.

I am resting this because I did not @ the person correctly and couldn't figure out how to edit. Sorry!

Different cultures enforce different sex stereotypes to maintain the gender hierarchy

Quite so - which means that according to stonewall everyone must be some degree of 'trans' somewhere.

Lordy an attempt to appropriate Spartacus lolol

8th rule of misogyny: Men are whatever men say they are and women are whatever men say they are.

Actually it was Spartacus who said no you are not Spartacus.

Hey ghost
Being a woman is being an adult of the sex that gestates and bears young. enjoy the debate!

@Pratchet, Intetesting definition But I don't think most feminists would agree that a woman is defined by their biology only.

GhostTess
Please read the thread...