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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Cis Child

37 replies

Terfulike · 11/06/2018 08:00

www.lboro.ac.uk/departments/ssehs/research/centrefordoctoraltraining/

I've searched the Web but can't find this phrase used anywhere else. This page came up on the Connecticut sports thread.

What is a cis child do you think?

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PositivelyPERF · 11/06/2018 08:05

It’s just a child. There is no such thing as cis. It’s just a made up word that TRAs use to label, mainly, women and now they’re trying to indoctrinate children into accepting it, because women have told them to tuck off. They use it because they want to blur the lines between gender feelze and sex.

PositivelyPERF · 11/06/2018 08:06

Tuck = fuck. My phone is being uptight this morning. 😁

Terfulike · 11/06/2018 08:09

www.lboro.ac.uk/departments/ssehs/research/centrefordoctoraltraining/

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LemonJello · 11/06/2018 08:13

The cis child is full of woe because she identifies into her own oppression?
The child that is called trans today is bonny and blithe and probably gay.

PositivelyPERF · 11/06/2018 08:13

The newly formed Gender and Sport Centre for Doctoral Training (CDT)

So a bullshite made up ‘science’ that has been created to manipulate people into believing that sex doesn’t matter, only feeling do. I’ll stick to facts, thanks.

PencilsInSpace · 11/06/2018 08:21

Shock at that project.

One of the most influential, powerful and visible institutions upholding the gender binary is sport – where participation is predominantly segregated by biological sex, rooted in the widely-held beliefs about fairness and the biological advantages associated with being male. Such beliefs are over-simplistic, legitimise discrimination, and hinder the sports participation of transgender (intersex, trans, non-binary) individuals. With the rapidly growing societal visibility of transgender people, there is an unprecedented need to address areas where discrimination may arise.

The newly formed Gender and Sport Centre for Doctoral Training (CDT), led by Dr Gemma Witcomb in the School of Sport Exercise and Health Sciences (SSEHS), is recruiting five highly motivated PhD students to explore the current and changing landscape of sports participation for transgender adults and children and recommend changes to promote inclusive participation

The project is run by psychologists, even the one that looks at the effects of changing testosterone levels on performance.

Funding for the PhD students alone amounts to £221,655 over 3 years.

PencilsInSpace · 11/06/2018 08:24

to manipulate people into believing that sex doesn’t matter, only feeling do

Yes, that was my impression reading through the project descriptions.

The first playing field
This project will undertake an assessment of attitudes and beliefs towards non-sex-segregated sports participation in schools and at grassroots recreational level. It will examine, via semi-structured interviews with children, parents, and those who deliver sports, the beliefs, barriers, and facilitators to non-sex-segregated participation. Importantly, it will document how challenges to these have been reconciled, identifying good practice, and suggesting ways that educational institutions can help to break down the gender-based myths that influence desire, motivation, ability, and rights to participate.

PencilsInSpace · 11/06/2018 08:25

LemonJello Grin

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 11/06/2018 08:26

Pencils, there's evidently a lot of money washing around in transactivism.

Terfulike · 11/06/2018 08:36

Yes I wonder how many studentships there are for women participation. I'm sure it will go down now men are going to be winning everything

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Bowlofbabelfish · 11/06/2018 08:39

If anyone would like to contact the university to ask where the funding comes from, the email address for the Postgraduate Research Administrator is under any of the boxes that expand talking about the projects. I shan’t put her email on here directly as I feel that’s unfair.

53rdWay · 11/06/2018 08:40

I don’t even know how you would define it. Presumably any useful definition of ‘cis’ has to involve being satisfied with your gender role and/or with your sexed body. But this for children would mean being satisfied with a hyper-gendered world (which is just off-the-charts mad for children at the moment), and thrilled about going through puberty. That wouldn’t have been me or most girls I knew growing up.

Back when I was trying my best to buy into this ideology, the line on how you know a child is trans is if their expressed desire to be a different sex is “consistent, persistent and insistent”, so it goes beyond “I’m a boy today!” roleplaying. But even this makes v little sense - so many of us when going through puberty are pretty consistent about feeling horrified and alienated by our own changing bodies and the way society views them. Is self-harm and eating disorders not ‘insistent’? Were we all secretly trans the whole time?

ScaredPAD · 11/06/2018 08:44

I'm a bit confused. How can they decide what the study will show before they ve undertaken the study. That's hugely biased isn't it. What of a researcher concludes there's good reason for male and female separate sport..

Bowlofbabelfish · 11/06/2018 08:46

I'm a bit confused. How can they decide what the study will show before they ve undertaken the study. That's hugely biased isn't it.

Nail. Head.

This isnt a research project, its a propaganda drive.

NotAnotherJaffaCake · 11/06/2018 08:47

Have they done an impact assessment on women? Can't believe this madness is being funded.

DailyMailClickbait · 11/06/2018 08:47

there's evidently a lot of money washing around in transactivism.

Yup. Big pharma has a substantial interest in this because it means life-long hormones and medication.
thefederalist.com/2018/02/20/rich-white-men-institutionalizing-transgender-ideology/

I suspect that it's gaining traction as well from conservative individuals, who find the concept of "transgender" far more palatable than being gay or lesbian. Ever wondered why Pakistan and Iran allow transgender rights and reassignment, but still criminalise being gay or lesbian?

LangCleg · 11/06/2018 08:49

This isnt a research project, its a propaganda drive.

YY.

Anyone beginning to get Gilead vibes?

NotAnotherJaffaCake · 11/06/2018 08:50

Who's the funding body?

PositivelyPERF · 11/06/2018 08:50

Yes I wonder how many studentships there are for women participation

Oh, I’m sure they’ll say women are well represented by men pretending to be women

Terfulike · 11/06/2018 08:54

Absolutely but the aim of the study seems to be"Given that unisex sport is obviously a good thing, how can we push it mainstream into every sport" rather than "is there a basis for unisex sports" or even " which sports are suitable for unisex and which are not" based on evidence.

I don't think it really counts as research as you're not really exploring an existing phenomen. They might as well be asking "how can turn voters towards the Lib dems" or something

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Bowlofbabelfish · 11/06/2018 09:03

jaffa I cant see one listed. It’s be interesting to ask who/what funds the individual projects and where the funding for the centre comes from.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 11/06/2018 09:03

Not disputing that some conservatives seem to prefer a trans girl to a gay son, but one very conservative voice in the USA opposing transgender is the eminent psychiatrist Paul McHugh. My DPs know him quite well.

He's debunked medical fads before. He worked to expose recovered memory syndrome, in which unscrupulous therapists convinced vulnerable patients that they'd been abused as children.

UpstartCrow · 11/06/2018 09:04

Surely the existing sports results is the data you need to conclude that in some sports, sex segregation is fair for women.

Oh I see the problem they have with that now.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 11/06/2018 09:05

Meant to include <a class="break-all" href="//link::www.wsj.com/articles/paul-mchugh-transgender-surgery-isnt-the-solution-1402615120" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">link::www.wsj.com/articles/paul-mchugh-transgender-surgery-isnt-the-solution-1402615120

PencilsInSpace · 11/06/2018 09:06

Different project - Are the traditional gender distinctions of male and female an outdated concept in modern-day law?

Professor Elizabeth Peel, of Loughborough’s School of Social, Political and Geographical Sciences, said: “The research aims to assess and generate public debate about our current system for determining legal gender.

“I am particularly excited about understanding people’s attitudes towards our gender system and whether and how people think gender could be legally recognised in different ways, or perhaps not at all.”

One project aim is to develop a draft bill to provide a focal point for discussion of legal reform.

This will present the best case for reform and demonstrate what legal change could look like and mean.

£724,000 funding from Economic and Social Research Council.