It's Serious

[Terfulike]

It has occurred to me tonight that the situation is genuinely serious.

I am/was a bit naive.

This post is about that it's really gone beyond stomping, laughing, giggling,

It's serious.

Kids are being operated upon.

For liking pink.

Kids are being poisoned with hormones.

For getting embarrassed about their growing breasts.

This is a call to... I don't know

A call to harms

My name is Georgina Toye

And I denounce this trans shit.

I thank

1 Magdalena berns

2 miranda Yardley

3 mumsnet feminist chat

4 my dad

Love and peace

A lot of stories that get told by parents seem to involve the child liking feminine dress and toys "liking pink

There is discussion the possibility of common narratives here:
(extract)
"Thus, the association of pink with girls is itself cultural; devoid of culture, pink has no meaning with respect to the preferences of children, or even adults, of either sex. Notably in the stories for young transgender females, many include a rejection of pink, dresses and princesses, the diametric opposite of the stories from transgender males."
mirandayardley.com/en/common-threads-and-narratives-of-transgender-children-and-what-this-means-for-our-lesbian-and-gay-populations/

@Terfulike you may have posted after a few but you are right, it is serious.
The figures showing the rise in referrals, especially of young girls, is really scary. The pushing of the trans agenda in schools, the influence the TRSs have and the silencing of women's voices- yes definitely frightening.

I'm not going to put myself on here, but lots of us are taking action and doing what we can . As individuals we can only do so much, together? We are unstoppable.

Rat, thanks fior the reply and also thank you for the others. See, what concerns me is that there doesn't seem to be much data gathering. I know the numbers for referrals and I cannot believe a lot of people look at them and don't go: what is going on here?
Yes, part of the increase will be the increase in acceptance of transchildren, but it is extremely naive to think peer pressure (as in being seen as cool and trendy), puberty confusion and sexuality confusion don't play a big part.
I think the increase in girls is because girls being masculine is more acceptable than boys being feminine. I would like to know if the dramatic increase is also visible for boys but after they have left school for example and are a bit older.
I would also like to know what the detransition rate is for a group that receives counseling as opposed to a group that chooses medication.
And lastly it would be great if we also knew more about translives after a decade after transitioning, 20 years after etc. However I see little to no research being done/allowed. It seems society is jumping into this blind and that is concerning.

sanluca
You may find some relevant info/discussion which relate to your concerns via the twitter account below. It records a number of personal experiences of females who have detransitioned.

twitter.com/FtMdetransed?lang=en-gb

I have yet to see any GC poster on here ever say that sometimes a doctor will know what they're doing in the best interests of their patient and that puberty blockers or cross-sex hormones will have greatly improved the quality of life for the person involved

I have absolutely said that medical treatment in an adult can be very helpful...and so have others on FWR

If you are specifically referring to children and medicalisation then i probably do have an issue as the side effects of puberty blockers can be harmful

aybe have a bit more humility in the face of our country's leading medical professionals in the field

And no

Doctors and medical professionals fuck up as much as every other human being, they arent always right

I have absolutely said that medical treatment in an adult can be very helpful...and so have others on FWR

And in children? Of course there are side effects; there are side effects of all sorts of drugs which treat our children. I don't personally feel best placed to weight up the pros and cons in every single case; and whilst I accept that doctors aren't perfect (Christ do I know it!) I'd rather they be able to make that decision than have the option of puberty blockers etc. permanently removed from prescribers.

(I was specifically referring to children; I know you and others have no problems with grown-ups doing as they please.)

Doctors and medical professionals fuck up as much as every other human being, they arent always right

Agreed! ...but they aren't always wrong, either. So maybe some portion of the use of puberty blockers etc. in young people is in fact the right decision? As right as anybody can be that is. I don't propose to know how much is the right decision though, I don't think anybody could.

i probably do have an issue as the side effects of puberty blockers can be harmful

Well thats why i said the above about the children

I dont think the vast majority of 10 or 11 year olds are able to make such a decision as studies appear to show that 80% of gender questioning children are not trans

And i really dont like the idea of playing russian roulette

If puberty blockers didnt have such potentially damaging consequences then id have no problem whatsoever

Oh sorry

Should say I completely agree with this

I don't propose to know how much is the right decision though, I don't think anybody could

Its who ultimately makes this decision which is the concerning part

It's all over social media, it's being pushed and I can imagine that it's very easy for children to get sucked in by it. That Riley on youtube is talking to children, not adults.

I have to say I made my daughter block some of those channels. Not that I am afraid she would get confused but I just don't like the way they talk about what it means to be female. Sets my teeth on edge.

It is serious.... very serious.

I like others like the anonymity of Mumsnet - I do not want my name circulated on the internet nor my children to be threatened .... I am concerned how I would be affected at work.

That said I am a proud founder member of ManFriday and am talking to many people about it, including those in influential positions - and not just on Fridays!