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Show Dog and it's disturbing message.

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NotAnotherNoughtiesTune · 22/05/2018 16:45

I was shown this by a friend on Twitter and another on Facebook and wondered what everyone thought:

foreverymom.com/arts-entertainment/dog-show-movie-review-grooming/

In short, the film is using the 'put up with what you don't like because you need it to accomplish something' as a point of the film.

If you read the article it explains it better as have a squirming toddler.

But do you think this is hysteria? An actual problem in children's entertainment?

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JoyTheUnicorn · 22/05/2018 16:49

I first saw a link on FB and dismissed it as OTT, but then I read it and changed my mind.
I think it's concerning, and given recent revelations/allegations about Hollywood and child abuse, I would consider this as grooming in plain sight.

LassWiADelicateAir · 22/05/2018 17:34

I didn't know that was a requirement of dog show judging.

I'm not a devotee of Crufts but if and when this examination happens I have never noticed it on television or heard it mentioned by the commentators. It could easily have been missed out.

ErrolTheDragon · 22/05/2018 17:47

It does sound off. If they'd really felt it to be a necessary part of the storyline that the dog had to put up with something he didn't like, it could have been having his teeth examined - many kids don't much like going to the dentist but know they have to do it. That would have been much less inappropriate and a situation kids could empathise with.

ErrolTheDragon · 22/05/2018 17:54

I didn't know that was a requirement of dog show judging.

Undescended testicles or monoorchidism is correlated with increased testicular cancer, and is heritable. So, understandably it's a 'fault' hence, I assume, the need to check dogs. (Don't know if anything similar applies to bitches).

But, as I said, not appropriate in a kids film.

HotRocker · 22/05/2018 17:59

Jesus, what the actual? Thank you for bringing that to my attention OP, my 10yo DS wants to see that film but after reading that I don’t think so. That’s just shocking.

NotAnotherNoughtiesTune · 22/05/2018 18:01

I agree having to get a coat put on him or something equally could e been a resistance that would be funny without creepy undertones.

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NoTNoShade · 22/05/2018 18:02

I first saw a link on FB and dismissed it as OTT, but then I read it and changed my mind.
Exactly the same as me. I thought it was a load of Facebook whipped up hysteria but I'm shocked at it. My dd would definitely want to see this so I'm glad that it was pointed out to me.

SardineReturns · 22/05/2018 18:03

Huh? That's the most bizarre thing I've read all week. Just, why?

aaarrrggghhhh · 22/05/2018 18:12

That is chilling. The mindset involved of the huge number of people who would have signed off on this - i.e. either some very off mindset or too scared to say something mindset.

Just UGH.

HotRocker · 22/05/2018 18:15

Has this been posted on the parenting boards? I’m not familiar with all the boards on mn but I’m sure others would know where it should go.

missmorleyme · 22/05/2018 18:17

Their is no reason to have anything like that in a kids film. As a pp said it could have been a teeth check or possibly being bathed or something? My dc will definitely not be watching this, it might be subtle in the film, but to a child its not at all. It makes a person question why the fuck it would be put in a film directed at children. It's disgusting, we do everything we can as parents to make our children aware or when something is wrong and that someone touching their private parts is wrong, and then this film comes out and sends a completely different message.

NotAnotherNoughtiesTune · 22/05/2018 18:43

That and that you should think of something else to be able to endure it.

More sinister the more I think about it.

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chequeplease · 22/05/2018 18:49

I just saw this on social media too. It's shocking! And so unsubtle, which scares me even more.

Like pp said- how many people would this have been ok'd by?!
So wrong!!

NotARegularPenguin · 22/05/2018 18:49

Wow. You’d have thought someone on the production side of things would have picked this up before the film was finished!

LassWiADelicateAir · 22/05/2018 18:51

Dental check/ brushing teeth/removing tartar would have worked perfectly.

Most of us hate it but it is necessary and good for us. There are no sinister implications in having to grin and bear a visit to the dentist.

Wanderabout · 22/05/2018 18:59
Confused

Who the hell produced this?

MoltenLasagne · 22/05/2018 19:04

I read this article from Twitter and found it very disturbing. I'm not sure how it got through the many layers of reviews and nobody questioned it. It's either deliberate grooming or the culture in Hollywood is rotten enough that no-one thinks the message of "try to enjoy it when someone touches your genitals when you don't want them to" is disturbing.

HotRocker · 22/05/2018 19:21

Wouldn’t it have had to pass a film censorship committee in the UK?

WhatTheWaterShowedMe · 22/05/2018 19:23

Has anyone seen Jeepers Creepers or Powder? Both films have incredibly disturbing messages and subtexts and they were both directed by Victor Salva, a convicted child molester.

thebewilderness · 22/05/2018 19:33

Grooming children for abuse is a theme running through a lot of animated films. Once you start to notice it you realize it is ubiquitous.

I did not like the bunnies and foxes can be friends theme in Zootopia because rather than the message they claim it sends regarding differences among people the children are likely to view it literally and put the bunny in with the foxes, or stick their hand in a meerkat cage.

FYI. I do not like the you must trust everyone or you are a bad person message either.

UpstartCrow · 22/05/2018 19:37

I noticed a couple of films on Netflix that had the theme that children who had been abducted were really taken away by people who cared for them more than their parents did.

NotAnotherNoughtiesTune · 22/05/2018 21:19

I'm no conspiracy theorist but there does seem to be a bit too much of it going on to just be a misread message.

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LaSqrrl · 22/05/2018 21:32

Wow, this is just so very disturbing.

LassWiADelicateAir · 22/05/2018 21:38

It has been getting terrible reviews although not for the reasons here. The final sentence of the review below is jaw dropping.

nationalpost.com/entertainment/movies/show-dogs-only-redeeming-factor-is-natasha-lyonnes-fabulous-bangs-which-has-absolutely-nothing-to-do-with-the-movie

So, when the judge reaches for the boys, Max keeps calm and goes to his happy place, a bizarreDirty Dancing-inspired psychotropic trip where some giant hearts explode and Arnett channels a very poor man’s Patrick Swayze. With a sigh of relief, this fantastic imagining is just long enough for Max to get through the fondling without making a scene, marking an ecstatic moment of transition as cop dog becomes show dog. It is an inspiring sequence that teaches the importance of keeping it together under pressure

NotAnotherNoughtiesTune · 22/05/2018 22:16

@LassWiADelicateAir Disturbing and hard to understand at the same time. I don't get how that is the message.

Max carries on even though he's frightened of cars when they take him on the road? Sure.

Also the word fondled makes me feel a bit ick here. Surely inspected not fondled?

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